Samuel Johnston:
It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliots Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]
If it comes down to Romney (Mormon) vs. Clinton (anti-Christ), they might want to reconsider.
It is inescapable that ones religious views, or lack thereof, will shape ones personal integrity. There is no question about that, said Cizik.
He pointed out that a lawmakers Mormon faith might cause his policy decision to be different than that of an evangelical in the same position.
Ok, an assertion has been made. Now back it up with an example. SHOW me how someone from the Mormon faith might adopt a policy decision different from an evangelical position.
....MIGHT cause ....
being male, might cause
being tall, might cause
wearing a blue suit, might cause
I don't select candidates on "... might cause...". Show me where there is a difference and I will consider the argument.
How long before this thread gets pulled?
Setting aside Keller's use of the word "cult", this basic factual observation about Mormonism is one of two big problems for Mitt. Mitt's other big problem is that he refuses to address this first one. If Mitt came out in the open and stated plainly that yes, Mormonism is a completely different faith than Christianity but that it is a good and peaceful and honest one and would have no hidden or untoward influence on a Mitt Romney Presidency, then many people would likely be willing to accept that. The fact that Mitt is trying to slip his Mormonism past the electorate disguised as Christianity is problematic to say the least.
People have got to understand that the beliefs of the Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with biblical Christianity, Bill Keller of LivePrayer.com told The Christian Post on Monday.”
Bill, we’re not nominating a NATIONAL DAMNED PASTOR YOU DOUCHEBAG!
Is that so?? Well, I believe Abe Lincoln was either an agnostic or aethist. I’ll take a Mormon over the Hildabeast any day.
Is this a set-up to blame evangelicals when the Romulan goes up in smoke? Most folks I know don’t care if Mutt worships the sun instead of the Son. The fact that he’s a Clintonesque, draft-dodging, abortion-backing, gay-loving, flip-flopping, slick-as-an-eel, jellyfish that matters most over his belief in an 1830 fairy tale.
We might as well be living in the 15th century.
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. Heavenly Father sent His Son Jesus Christ to die for my sins, to pay the penalty for me. The Holy Ghost witnesses this to my heart and soul.
I am a Mormon.
Oh, your Jesus is a different Jesus, you say.
My Jesus is the One who died for my sins to make it possible for me to return to Heavenly Father.
I am sick of these anti Mormon articles, full of lies and deceit.
First there was the Old Testament, then the New Testament, then the Book of Mormon... God updates all the time. It’s no big deal.
This guy needs to get a grip. Romney's not running for a clerical position.
A great suggestion! And there is a great resource online!
For accurate information on LDS doctrine and why Mormons believe they are Christian, here are links to the teachings of two LDS Church leaders from the LDS General Conference on October 6-7, 2007:
The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent, by LDS Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.Other formats and languages and other LDS General Conference talks are available here.The Stone Cut Out of the Mountain, by LDS Church President Gordon B. Hinckley: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.
There will be many who will share their oppinions about LDS doctrine from a non-LDS (or anti-LDS) perspective. If you have questions after reviewing any of this, Mormon.org offers the ability to ask questions by email or anonymous online chat.
BTW, Romney is not at the top of my list, Hunter is. I'm still looking at Romney & Thompson. I have no interest in the rest.
Yep.
It’s interesting that Romney refuses to talk about his religious upbringing and denies remembering his childhood church.
“Keller said he was concerned that having someone like Romney in the highest visibility, highest power position in the country would cause non-Christians and unchurched people to search out the Mormon religion.”
In other words, he wants to prevent people from finding out about Mormons and their faith. He wants people to be ignorant of Mormons. Seems to me that this would indicate that he doesn’t really have the confidence that his faith can stand up to such ‘competition’. It’s no different than the MSM marginalizing and silencing conservative voices.
“In doing so it is going to lead people into these false beliefs and ultimately die in their sins, Keller warned.”
Doesn’t Keller think he and his fellow travelers will be able to make their case? And really, joining us takes some serious commitment, no coffee, no tea, no smoking, no alcohol, no sex outside of marriage, tithing, serving in the church, then you get family, friends and others getting on your case trying to talk you out of it, this isn’t a church anyone joins lightly.
Also, how many people became Catholic because of JFK? How many became evangelicals because of Carter? Without realizing it, Keller portrays Americans as bunch of easily mislead idiots and Mormonism as an attractive and easy to convert to religion.
“He pointed out that a lawmakers Mormon faith might cause his policy decision to be different than that of an evangelical in the same position.”
Yet nobody is ever able to give any example of how this could be so.
The standard that evangelicals want to use to exclude Mormons from Christendom would also exclude Jefferson, and ironicly, it is the same standard that Catholics used to brand protestants as heretics, non-Christians, a cult and so on 400 years ago.
Mitt’s values, experience, record, and platform are all valid things to examine in making a decision for or against him. His religion is not, and all Keller is trying to do is put an acceptable spin on religious bigotry.