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Thompson's Roll-of-the-Dice Southern strategy
The Nashville Scene ^ | October 30, 2007 | Jeff Woods

Posted on 10/30/2007 8:07:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Influential Des Moines Register columnist David Yepsen trashes Fred Thompson today and hails the underfunded, Chip Saltsman-managed campaign of Mike Huckabee. Yepsen says Thompson "has fallen flat."

"After Thompson's late start, he's lighting no fires in Iowa," Yepsen writes. "His speech at the big Reagan Dinner Saturday night was a boilerplate thing he could have given anywhere. Romney didn't show. Huckabee got the only standing ovation."

The Wall Street Journal today reports on Thompson's risky Southern strategy and points out that he's all but bypassing Iowa and New Hampshire. Yesterday, he made only his second appearance in New Hampshire since announcing his candidacy. " ... [H]e faced pointed questioning from the local media, which hasn't seen him in six weeks, asking how he expected to win if he wasn't going to campaign there."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
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I think this has been the strategy from the start, but why telegraph your intentions to your rivals?
1 posted on 10/30/2007 8:07:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B T T T


2 posted on 10/30/2007 8:11:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, both Mitt and Fred are rolling the dice, Mitt betting on IA and NH victories to carry him to glory, and Fred betting on the south. We will soon see how it all pans out.


3 posted on 10/30/2007 8:17:18 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: HerrBlucher

soon is a year away.


4 posted on 10/30/2007 8:18:12 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: HerrBlucher

Add Michigan, South Carolina, and Nevada to Romney’s early target list. He’s working his plan with painstaking precision and with more energy than any other candidate—especially Fred.


5 posted on 10/30/2007 8:21:49 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Add to this Southern strategy...he picked up a very good endorsement from McClintock in California. That will carry a great deal of weight in Southern California. Conservatives should unite out there and push Rudy and Mitt off the charts.
6 posted on 10/30/2007 8:24:41 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"After Thompson's late start, he's lighting no fires in Iowa," Yepsen writes.

It is long past time for the little backward state of Iowa to stop trying to elect the president for the whole country, I really could care less what Yepper says.

7 posted on 10/30/2007 8:30:19 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The endorsement in California is more important than New Hampshire/Iowa...

Though in some races New Hampshire and Iowa might set the tempo for the presidential primaries, doing some smart strategy sessions behind closed doors and getting support from around the country makes more sense than playing up to minor league reporters in Des Moines or those in New Hampshire...

Fred Thompson has shown that he can set his own pace and style in running his race -- from announcing his run from a late night Television shoe to other things that only Fred Thompson can do...

I think Fred Thompson is a candidate that has savvy for this race, he might just outfox the other two frontrunners on the Republican side (Romney/Guiliani) and be prepared to take it to the Democrat frontrunner once he has the nomination.

Fred has the name recognition that the other candidates (excepting 9-11 Rudy Guiliani) do not have...

Running a Smart Race seems to be the Thompson Race.

Maybe there will be Thompson Machine Gun of Victories in primaries -- just rattling off the wins like the Thompson Machine Gun rattled off bullets...

[2nd Amendment folks will like that analogy]

8 posted on 10/30/2007 8:38:20 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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“Though in some races New Hampshire and Iowa might set the tempo for the presidential primaries, doing some smart strategy sessions behind closed doors and getting support from around the country makes more sense than playing up to minor league reporters in Des Moines or those in New Hampshire...”

Uh huh ... and which Presidential campaign have you steered to victory on this idiosyncratic ‘strategy’? Fact is, we havent seen *any* GOP nominee who didnt win one or two of the key early states - IA, NH and SC.

And you dont notice that while Romney just picked up a big NH endorsement, and endorsemnets in SC, Romney and Rudy are also in Florida, Michigan and other states.

This so-called ‘strategy’ is an excuse for the fact that Fred’s slow and late campaigning pace has impaired his ability to effectively compete in these early states of IA, and NH. So they say look south. Yet even in SC, Romney and Rudy have been there more and done more. Fred promises to make a stand in NH in another article, so that debunks the ‘southern strategy’.

Sounds like the bravado of die-hard baseball fans saying ‘wait til next year’, except its “Wait ‘til next state.”

I was hoping Fred T would kill Rudy in Florida but polls as of now dont show that. Rudy leads.


9 posted on 10/30/2007 8:53:37 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-national sovereignty, pro-strong national defense, PRO-troops)
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10 posted on 10/30/2007 9:06:26 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Blue Highway
soon is a year away.

No, soon is February 08. I was referring to the GOP nod. True, the convention is not until next summer, but likely we will know who the candidate will be Feb 08.

11 posted on 10/30/2007 9:14:06 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: topher
late night Television shoe

Is that you Ed Sullivan?

12 posted on 10/30/2007 9:15:47 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, goodbye Fred. Mercy. What a flash in the pan. Hunter and Thompson have led this site around quite a bit and neither will ever have the seat of honor in the Oval Office. Flame away.
13 posted on 10/30/2007 9:16:28 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Influential Des Moines Register columnist David Yepsen trashes Fred Thompson

Does anyone think Yepsen is a republican sympathizer, much less a conservative?

14 posted on 10/30/2007 9:28:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: org.whodat

I agree with you, and I live in Iowa.


15 posted on 10/30/2007 9:28:41 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
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To: HerrBlucher
FDT has collapsed in every state, especially in IA and NH. He's way, way behind in SC and is givnig ground up to the smarter, more qualified, healther, and and more energetic Huckabee.

No comment on the ideology of either.

16 posted on 10/30/2007 9:29:45 PM PDT by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: sefarkas

Yet based on your tagline...who do you support? Can’t be Rudy.


17 posted on 10/30/2007 9:31:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: mbraynard

He’s not “way, way behind” in SC. He’s LEADING in most polls.


18 posted on 10/30/2007 9:32:02 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: sefarkas

Fred’s not run out of steam.. He runs better coming up from behind... You gotta pace yourself through the primaries in an open GOP race. If we followed Yepper’s logic, Bush Sr would have won in 1980.... Much as the pomp and circumstance is attractive of the Hawkeye Cauccii and the Old man Primary, they are ultimately yesterday’s news... The race will be decided in the South and out west, where while he’s behind he’s also closest ideologically to the GOP base in those states, in voting record and rhetoric.....


19 posted on 10/30/2007 9:37:24 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: HerrBlucher
Mitt betting on IA and NH victories to carry him to glory

That strategy makes sense, though, as every Republican nominee since 1968 has won one or both of those states. And, if wins both, he'll probably win South Carolina.

If Thompson gets buried in Iowa and New Hampshire, it's hard to imagine him winning South Carolina.

20 posted on 10/30/2007 9:42:21 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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