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Ali Al-Timimi, al-Qaeda and Anthrax
JAWA Report ^ | October 29, 2007 03:48 PM | Howie

Posted on 10/29/2007 2:22:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ali al-Timimi will be serving life for sedition. Specifically he was recruiting for al-Qaeda from the US. Scary enough, but read the whole article. It appears al-Qaeda had infiltrated US biodefense and has supporters/agents with access to the Ames strain of anthrax and the know how to make dried concentrated forms of the spores.

Via Bloggernews.net:A colleague of famed Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek and former USAMRIID head Charles Bailey, a prolific Ames strain researcher, has been convicted of sedition and sentenced to life in prison. He worked in a program co-sponsored by the American Type Culture Collection and had access to ATCC facilities, as well as facilities of the George Mason University Center for Biodefense. The Center for Biodefense was funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. The Center was run by Dr. Alibek and Dr. Bailey. The bionformatics grad student once had a high security clearance for mathematical support work for the Navy. In the 1990s, Ayman Zawahiri had Ali Mohammed infiltrate the CIA and US Army, and dupe the FBI. He did it all over again with Ali Al-Timimi. If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
So the reports that the Antrax attacks were an inside job may not entirely false. The fact no one wants to admit is that al-Qaeda had managed to get inside.

I just happened across this this morning. The article is long but a couple of points that struck me were that al-Timimi had access to the area and there were complaints of lax security in the area where virulent strains were kept for patent reference purposes. Please read the entire thing carefully.



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To: ZacandPook

I asked those questions of Mr. Lake months ago......why does he not provide academic citations to his articles, even though he publishes the articles in full? I was told to mind my own business, because Mr. Lake is such a god for saving and archiving all of his sources so that we, the public, can forever continue our research. My comment was if he is to be considered a viable source of data and facts, then he would provide proper references. Until then, his theories are questionable and food for the round file.

And the 95% fact that a 1st-grader wrote those words? What do you base that on...that 95% of your brain was working the day you devised that theory?

I think Zac hit the nail on the head this time.....looking at porn only makes you an expert on anatomy.


61 posted on 11/01/2007 9:49:17 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Badabing Badablonde

Consider the naked women issue. If he didn’t want the naked pictures the web causing Sophia Loren and hundreds of others distress, then he wouldn’t carefully archive them. If he didn’t want people to visit the website, he would not seek press and give interviews in the media about the site.

Similarly, if he is going to being reporting people to the FBI for terrorist acts, as he has done as recently as July 7 and subsequently, on theories as stupid as his 1st grader theory and his “perfect alibi” theory, then he should at least respect federal law. A crime is a crime. He’s got no respect for the rule of law.


62 posted on 11/01/2007 4:08:30 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Badabing Badablonde; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Zawahiri’s Spy Who Fooled UK Biodefense Establishment,” November 2, 2007
http://www.bloggernews.net/111377


63 posted on 11/02/2007 4:28:56 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
If you want to read something really chilling, read Alibeks book. I think it is titled "Biowar." Incredibly scary what the Soviets were up to.

Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.

64 posted on 11/02/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: PsyOp

I like Dr. Alibek.

He was the one who first told me that the FBI suspected Dr. Al-Timimi.

I had asked him if knew Al-Timimi.

Ken thinks US-based supporters of the militants are behind the anthrax mailings.


65 posted on 11/02/2007 10:23:18 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook
Ken thinks US-based supporters of the militants are behind the anthrax mailings.

That is my guess as well. In Germs, by Judith Miller, (2001), the ease with which a Bio-Weapons lab can be set up is illustrated nicely. A halfway decent chemist with adequate funds can set one up using of-the-shelf dual-use equipment right here in the US. No need to smuggle anything across the border.

Couple that with reports of Iranians being nabbed at the mexican border on a regular basis, and things could get very intersting in the not-so-distant future.

66 posted on 11/02/2007 12:04:21 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: PsyOps

Well we saw that the invasion of Iraq only made the war less safe. So let’s hope the Administration shows common sense this time and does better at intelligence analysis.


67 posted on 11/02/2007 1:36:42 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Badabing Badablonde; TrebleRebel

BadabingBadablonde, I realize I could never take you to Paris as often as Trebel Rebel does, but does he write you poetry?

Here is a book of rhyming palindromes

I call it:

Ed Ode:
Rats Live On No Evil Star

(A palindrome reads the same forwards and backwards)

Ma handed Edna ham
Ma is as selfless as I am

Kayak salad, Alaska yak.
Campus Motto: Bottoms up, Mac

Wow! Sis! Wow!
Wonton on salad? Alas, no, not now!

“Desserts, sis?” (Sensuousness is stressed).
Desserts I desire not, so long no lost one rise distressed.

“Do nine men interpret?” Nine men, I nod.
Doc, note I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.

May a moody baby doom a yam?
Marge let a moody baby doom a telegram.

Oh who was it I saw, oh who?
Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo?

Was it a car or a cat I saw?
War! I saw ‘Nam — man was I raw.

We panic in a pew.
We’ll let Mom tell Lew.

‘Tis in a DeSoto sedan I sit.
To Idi Amin I am an idiot.

Race fast, safe car.
Rats live on no evil star.

Toot! Toot!
Too hot to hoot.

Stop, Syrian! I start at rats in airy spots.
Stop! Murder us not, tonsured rumpots.

Trap a rat! Stare, piper, at star apart!
Trade ye no mere moneyed art.

If I had a hi-fi!? If I had a hi-fi!?
I, madam, I made radio. So I dared! Am I mad? Am I?

Ah! A mop, a man, a map: Omaha!
Was it felt? I had a hit left, I saw.

Solo gigolos.
So many dynamos.

Oh, no! Don Ho.
Ogre, flog a golfer. Go!

Ten animals I slam in a net.
Pets, Ed, I sidestep.

Yo Bob, mug a gumbo boy!
Young Sten nets gnu! Oy!

Nurse, save rare vases, run!
Now, sir, a war is won.

Mad? Am I, madam?
Madam, in Eden, I’m Adam!

Reviled did I live, said I, as evil did I deliver.
Revered now I live on. O did I no evil, I wonder ever?

Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
Are we not drawn onwards, we few, drawn on to new era?


68 posted on 11/02/2007 1:46:03 PM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

Zac, TrebleRebel has many gifts, one of which is that he is the only man who can keep me smiling 24/7, and he doesn’t do that by taking me to Pairs........’nuff said.

That was lovely poetry, and quite creative. Seems to me it tales more creativity to write palindromes in rhyme than to find fake tits on a celebrity.


69 posted on 11/02/2007 8:58:26 PM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: ZacandPook

errata -

“Are we not drawn onwards, we few, drawn on to new era?”

to be palindromic, should be

“Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?”

Comment to FBI profilers: This was just a test. For those of you who did not notice that the last sentence was not a correct palindrome, what if Ayman or I was concealing a coded message by the added/missing letters: DRAW/S.

Such as: If intelligence analysis is art, criminal profiling as done by the FBI is drawing with crayons.

To take another example, what if KSM, who said publicly at his Gitmo confession that he beheaded Daniel Pearl with his right hand, is left-handed?

ZacandPook are the protagonists in a $2 million real treasure hunt called THE ALCHEMIST DAR. Pook is the author’s dog and means “fart” in Russian. The author’s last treasure hunt (involving $1 million) was called A TREASURE TROVE and was fantastic family fun.

In terms of talking about Amerithrax for a few hours over the course of Thursday and Friday last week, this beautiful and brilliant FBI agent was asking me about past treasure hunts. I told her being wrong is half the fun.

But do not treasure hunts such as Oak Island bring to those young at heart the joy of a good mystery? (Proposed answer to Oak Island: the treasure that is hidden relates to sacking of Havana in 1787 and hiding of loot by British).

Now if only Special Agent Michele would join me for a real world treasure hunt.

That’s right, ladies and germs, it’s time to revisit the CODE USED IN THE ANTHRAX LETTERS.

For example, KSM came to be head of the cell weaponizing anthrax for attacking the US. The group for which Ayman and KSM worked as As Sahab, meaning “Clouds.” The stationery containing the anthrax sent to AMI contained blue and pink clouds. Do we dismiss it as a concidence such as was done by some in the basement of Quantico? Or do we consider, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, that the anthrax mailer was using code. I propose the latter.


70 posted on 11/03/2007 1:50:13 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

errata -

“(Proposed answer to Oak Island: the treasure that is hidden relates to sacking of Havana in 1787 and hiding of loot by British).”

Sacking of Havana was in 1762. Sometimes a mistake is just a mistake.


71 posted on 11/03/2007 1:56:37 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh my! Bump for reading tomorrow.


72 posted on 11/03/2007 2:09:20 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ZacandPook

Al Qaeda Codes: When Clouds Form Animals
November 3rd, 2007

http://www.bloggernews.net/111405


73 posted on 11/03/2007 7:44:50 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Badabing Badablonde
Je peux vous faire le sourire à Paris aussi bien.


74 posted on 11/03/2007 5:58:53 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

TrebleRebel, and don’t think I didn’t notice the clouds. Get your mind out of the gutter, mate!

Leahy, Mukasey, Torture and Anthrax: Connecting the Dots
November 4th, 2007 by Ross E. Getman
http://www.bloggernews.net/111428


75 posted on 11/04/2007 5:44:13 AM PST by ZacandPook
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Battle Axe

Ping and bookmark


76 posted on 11/04/2007 5:59:01 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I also found a copy of GERMS by Judith Miller when I was trying to figure out what I had seen at Iowa State University in the late part of 1990.

What I saw were two sores that looked like anthrax, except that they dripped and dripped profusely. According to the literature, anthrax is a dry lesion. So was what I saw anthrax or not?

The sores were black in the middle like burned brownies and surrounded by crazy concentric rings, the outermost ring was a bruise. And it did not hurt. That was the craziest thing. If it only hurt when you looked at it, then that was psychosomatic.

If you have the paperback edition, turn to page 315-316. This is a quote from one of the postal workers named Margano. He had stuck his arm into a letter canceling machine trying to get the electronic eye cleared....it was covered in anthrax spores and was not detecting the letters. Margano broke the skin on his arm and contracted cutaneous anthrax right there.

The quote says that his sore drip, drip, drip like a faucet.

That is exactly what the sores I saw at ISU did. The man’s sore ran so much he was constantly wiping his chin while sitting there in the waiting room of the student health center. The woman’s (his wife who sat across the table from me in class) had a sore on her arm and she actually got some drainage on a page of one of MY books.

After I read GERMS, it dawned on me that all of the literature was writing before 9-11. The anthrax that was mailed was still anthrax, but a different kind. This kind dripped. But I needed more than just Margano to say to any authority that the dripping was caused by the anthrax and not just a secondary contaminant.

If you read the CDC report on the baby (7 mo. old) at ABC, his sore was wet. And then another postal worker that another Freeper help me contact, O’Donnell or O’Connell, had a badly dripping sore and his physician actually cut in out of his neck.

Then the scientists came out with the genetic code of the stuff that was mailed.....and the stuff that was mailed is all identical....and they came up with a mutation, an inverstion on one of the plasmids. Like a zipper put in upside down.

The mailed anthrax is actually a “mixture” of genotype 62 and this genotype 62 mutation. So regular and mutated all mixed together. There does not seem to be some separation or migration into adaptable and non-adaptable as we would think would happen.

The first victim, Bob Stevens, is the index sample. They took what had been ravaging his body and tested it. The mixture was there. One kind was not better at anything than the other. A very un-expected event.

Then they plated out and streaked the sample onto sheep's blood agar and looked at individual colonies. To their surprise, you could see a difference. One kind had a round colony and the other had a fluted edge, like Mom would crimp the edge of an apple pie, a wavy edge.

This is my theory on the wavy edge. If you look at mud flows down an incline, you will see puddling where the water and mud were more water than mud.

I say this fluted edge is the result of this one kind (the mutated one) having produced an extra metabolic water and a mud flow of excess water and bacteria cascade down the side of the colony.

The extra metabolic water makes this anthrax wet or dripping. This is the same stuff.

Glad you got that book.

Battle Axe

77 posted on 11/04/2007 6:55:51 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Battle Axe

Battle Axe, invoking mom’s apple pie... hmm... pretty smooth advocacy there.

Malcolm Gladwell (of “Blink” and “Tipping Point”) has this on the FBI’s profiling in The New Yorker:

“Dangerous Minds: Criminal Profiling Made Easy,” New Yorker, November 12, 2007
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/11/12/071112fa_fact_gladwell


78 posted on 11/05/2007 7:29:31 AM PST by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

“A profile isn’t a test, where you pass if you get most of the answers right. It’s a portrait, and all the details have to cohere in some way if the image is to be helpful. In the mid-nineties, the British Home Office analyzed a hundred and eighty-four crimes, to see how many times profiles led to the arrest of a criminal. The profile worked in five of those cases. That’s just 2.7 per cent, which makes sense if you consider the position of the detective on the receiving end of a profiler’s list of conjectures.”


79 posted on 11/05/2007 9:38:11 AM PST by ZacandPook
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To: ZacandPook

“[Forensic psychologist Laurence Alison] wanted to know why, if the F.B.I.’s approach to criminal profiling was based on such simplistic psychology, it continues to have such a sterling reputation. The answer, he suspected, lay in the way the profiles were written, and, sure enough, when he broke down [a particular] analysis, sentence by sentence, he found that it was so full of unverifiable and contradictory and ambiguous language that it could support virtually any interpretation. Astrologers and psychics have known these tricks for years.”


80 posted on 11/05/2007 9:50:02 AM PST by ZacandPook
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