Posted on 10/29/2007 1:23:27 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa
VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholic pharmacists on Monday to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing drugs with "immoral purposes such as, for example, abortion or euthanasia."
In a speech to participants at the 25th International Congress of Catholic Pharmacists, Benedict said that conscientious objection was a right that must be recognized by the pharmaceutical profession.
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Fine, if you pay their salaries you can tell them what to do.
Fine, if you pay their salaries you can tell them what to do.
I hate to break it to you but the pharmacist dispensing your insulin is quite involved in your treatment. He is one of the lines of defense should your physician order an incorrect dosage. He is also a resource for adverse effects, drug interactions and antidotes. He is a behind the scenes VIP in your care.
If a pharmacist was ethically opposed to insulin he would not be employed in an institution which required it or another pharmacist without objections would be available to dispense.
I’m surprised at the number of people championing their own rights who are more than willing to violate the rights of others.
“And not so long ago employers like you were able to fire employees for being of dark complexion or a woman.”
Wrong again. There’s a big difference between having a dark complexion and refusing to do your job.
Try another strawman.
So now tell me again. I hire you to do a specific job and you know what that job is coming in and you think it’s OK to refuse to do part of it?
Glad you don’t work for me.
It’ll be much more subtle. They simply won’t hire Catholics in order to not risk a conflict
“It’ll be much more subtle. They simply won’t hire Catholics in order to not risk a conflict.”
As long as you don’t volunteer the information or wear a sign saying “I’m Catholic,” the employer won’t know. It’s long been illegal to ask about religion in job interviews.
“Are you OK with the government telling you that you must dispense abortion pills, which is the trend now.”
No, I’m not. If a pharmacist doesn’t want to carry certain things because of conscience, he or she shouldn’t be forced to. But that wasn’t part of the original conversation, either.
I was simply arguing that if I hire you to do a certain job and after you start working you refuse to do part of the job, you’re fired. What’s so strange about that?
Dude, they’re disqualifying all kinds of people from jobs these days in subtle and not so subtle ways. Of course, this isn’t new — but it’s seemed to have picked up.
“The Pope is not referring to people overdosing on drugs and the issue is utterly irrelevant and a red herring.”
You’re right. My bad.
“Dude, they’re disqualifying all kinds of people from jobs these days in subtle and not so subtle ways. Of course, this isn’t new — but it’s seemed to have picked up.”
Really? For instance?
How much is the t-shirt?
Too old (over 45), too fat, poor grammar, smoker, too “ethnic”/not “ethnic” enough, wrong college, single mom, single 30-something woman, etc. etc.
That's the bottom line.
Would anyone here defending these pharmacists also defend those Muslim cabdrivers in Minnesota who refused to pick up blind passengers with guide dogs?
“Would anyone here defending these pharmacists also defend those Muslim cabdrivers in Minnesota who refused to pick up blind passengers with guide dogs?”
Of course not!! But they’re just Muslims, so it’s OK. /s
BTW, I’d fire their butts, too.
“Too old (over 45), too fat, poor grammar, smoker, too “ethnic”/not “ethnic” enough, wrong college, single mom, single 30-something woman, etc. etc.”
Some of those (not all), in fact, seem to me to be perfectly good reasons not to hire somebody. And a few are perfectly reasonable for firing IF they affect job performance.
I still don’t understand why anybody who has a relgious objection to dispensing birth control or the morning after pill would apply to work at a pharmacy. The article didn’t say this specifically, but I would assume the Pope also thinks it’s a bad idea for Catholic pharmacists to sell birth control pills, foam, and condoms.
In many professions appearance counts to an amazing degree, and not just jobs where the staff is interacting with the public. And then there is the insurance factor. It’s cheaper to insure an office filled with somethings, than 40-somethings.
I suspect that in the world of drugs, etc. that an increasing number of ethical questions will arise as the drugs become more sophisticated.
Lastly, I can’t help wondering if folks here would have the same attitude if the situation was a scientologist who refused to dispense prozac or a religious muslim behind the deli counter who refused to handle pork products.
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