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New Dem bill removes job magnet for illegals
NumbersUSA ^ | 29 OCT 2007 | Roy Beck

Posted on 10/29/2007 5:06:23 AM PDT by radar101

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1 posted on 10/29/2007 5:06:25 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

will this be another bill upon which the Congress votes, without actually reading?


2 posted on 10/29/2007 5:08:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: radar101

I’ve been too busy to FReep this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do. Lawn work, landscaping, painting, etc.

Time to change my tag line.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 5:11:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: radar101

What’s the catch ? There’s got to be a catch, I doubt a Dem would introduce a bill like that with the big possibility of being called a ‘racist’.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:35 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: radar101

The Pelosians will never allow a vote................


5 posted on 10/29/2007 5:13:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: radar101
I can simplify this legislation:

20 years in prison (no parole) for any employer that knowingly hires an illegal....BTW....execute the illegal.

Word would run through the community like a wild fire...

6 posted on 10/29/2007 5:16:48 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: radar101
"The success of this Democratic-led bill will be dependent upon Republicans massively joining it as well."

In other words, the Dems aren't actually planning to vote for it. I give this bill a snow-ball's chance in Hell of passing.

7 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“There aren’t enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country.”

Since this is the “underground economy,” I doubt the author has any way to back up this claim.


8 posted on 10/29/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: farlander

My first thoughts too. This has to be total BS. No breathing RAT can be trusted with this issue.


9 posted on 10/29/2007 5:18:02 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Diogenesis

Isn’t Schuler one of the newly elected “Blue Dog” democrats? Anyway, if this bill is as good as it sounds and can actually get passed, I wouldn’t care if Ted Kennedy sponsored it.

The main obstacle might be Bush!!:(


10 posted on 10/29/2007 5:21:05 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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Take a cold shower Roy. This is just show business by shuler to save his own butt. plastic face will allow the so called “blue rats” to introduce all kinds of conservative SOUNDING bills, but she will NEVER allow them to get to a vote.


11 posted on 10/29/2007 5:23:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: farlander
What’s the catch ?

believing in nonsense like this.."SELF-DEPORTATION"..

12 posted on 10/29/2007 5:25:12 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: farlander
What’s the catch ?

It's another government operation. No one expects government operations to accomplish anything. Sometime during the four years this is supposed to help we will hear that we need a "comprehensive" program to make this work.

13 posted on 10/29/2007 5:36:05 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: radar101

What happens to employers who do not fire illegals? As I quickly scanned this article, I did not see the provision for employer sanctions.

In Arizona, starting in 2008, an employer who doesn’t use this electronic verification system for new hires will have his business license suspended for 10 days. The second infraction = permanent revocation.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 5:45:17 AM PDT by Molly K.
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Yes he is. As a NC voter, I cringe with doubt. Just a smoke screen bill because NC is heavily infiltrated with Mexicans working tobacco farms, especially WNC, Shuler’s home area. My BS meter is pegged.


15 posted on 10/29/2007 5:50:21 AM PDT by momincombatboots (World changing power in the blood)
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"What's the catch?"

The first catch is that Shuler knows the bill can't pass. While there is wide support for more internal enforcement/employee verification, there is going to be opposition because it is not comprehensive. Recall that there were many who voted against the recent Dream Act legislation, because it wasn't comprehensive, even tho they supported the Dream act.

The second catch is that Shuler has not included the linking of Real ID to employee verification. He has also not mentioned the merging of the SS and DHS databases.

16 posted on 10/29/2007 5:50:36 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: cbkaty

“20 years in prison (no parole) for any employer that knowingly hires an illegal....BTW....execute the illegal.”

The kind of good old-fashioned justice we haven’t seen in 60 years or so.


17 posted on 10/29/2007 5:55:08 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: radar101

Looky there.. Dems moving to the right of Republicans... must be the election season... Any time the Republicans are left enough for Democrats to move to the right of them, the Democrats take the win.


18 posted on 10/29/2007 6:02:38 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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Pass another law, spend a BUNCH of money for “enforcement” and very little result. Sounds like a dimmocrat proposal!

Verifying eligibility and successfully prosecuting the offenders is a totally different thing. Many, many jobs today are filled by these illegals who will never be identified simply because their “employers” will not attempt to identify them. Whole communities of these illegals have “off the books” jobs that will never go away until the employers are identified and severely punished. This “law” won’t change the employers of these “little” enterprises. Literally millions of these illegals are employed by these “cash paid daily” employers who actually employ less than 10 people a day - and never report (pay) taxes or employee earnings. Arresting and successfully prosecuting an employer who has employed the services of 3 or 4 people illegally is too expensive and the successful arresting agency head doesn’t get his name in the paper or on TV and our courts can’t handle the backlog they have today. The law enforcement personnel will be “overworked” watching the large employers and will simply be screaming every year for “more money” to add enforcement personnel (which they never do even after they get the money).


19 posted on 10/29/2007 6:04:37 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: radar101
North Carolina Democratic Representative Heath Shuler will soon be introducing a great immigration enforcement bill:

Don't tell me; Shuler is getting the idea that his constituents are getting tired of him having his nose so far up Pelosi's (insert favorite orifice name here) that he figures he has to do something to make it look like he's not a complete socialist toady.

20 posted on 10/29/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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