Posted on 10/26/2007 11:51:04 AM PDT by Delacon
ping
...from every direction you can think of.....
More phone calls needed.. crops are not rotting in the field.. or we would see it on msm constatly, and poor starving kids as well
“crops are not rotting in the field.. or we would see it on msm constatly”
Good point. Some reporter standing in a field saying “little Johnny won’t be getting his pumpkin for Halloween this year”.
Those "farmers" don't need slave wage illegal aliens, that are nothing but a burden to taxpayers, a menance to society in so many ways.
The market can bear what ever slight extra cost it takes to hire legal citizens at decent wages.
We need a golden stake.
Whorealdo is out looking for the rotted crops and sob-stories as we speak. :)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Time to sharpen the pitch forks and light the torches . . . again.
The growers seem to care far more about their profits than their country, kids schools, hospitals, and communities. I would much rather import brocolli and apples than third world problems.
Ironically, if the growers get their amnesty those workers are going to immediately demand better wages and working conditions. So the growers will require more cheap illegal immigrants in the never ending pipeline of unskilled third world imports.
thanks, bfl
The thing is that a few large modern tractors or large new modern peices of farm equipment or heck even japanese robots ( in other words Technology), can do more work cheaper than hundreds of Mexican illegals. The liberal media is trying to tell us that Stone Age work habits can outdo our modern tecnological, computerized industrial economy. If that were so then India and Mexico would be rich because they have all the cheap labor that the Democrats say we need.
Remember, “farming” nowadays isn’t much different from construction or building cars. It’s a factory business, not a family business. I used to work for an agricultural lending co-op, and yes, they held many small loans to family farmers. But the majority of their portfolio was seven- and eight-figure loans to large businesses that employed hundreds or thousands of people. Given the opportunity, you know they’ll hire hordes of illegals at ridiculously low wages to do their lettuce picking or chicken plucking or cow slaughtering.
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Thing is, many of the illegals don’t actually work on a farm. They work in slaughterhouses, or processing plants, that still need a lot of heavy, unskilled manual labor (usually in disgusting or even dangerous conditions).
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“Thing is, many of the illegals dont actually work on a farm. They work in slaughterhouses, or processing plants, that still need a lot of heavy, unskilled manual labor (usually in disgusting or even dangerous conditions).”
The thing is, as the article states, once the current crop of illegals are granted amnesty, they move on to other jobs(you know, jobs Americans ARE willing to do) and this just creates an magnet for more illegals to come here to fill the vacancies. Agjobs doesn’t solve the problem, it makes it worse.
The liberals/Communists/Democrats and the liberal media are lying when they say that we need hordes of illegal Mexicans for our economy to work right.
Processing plants can be automated too. Japan doesn’t need to import illegals because they have technology and robots. Toyota car plants are almost completely automated with robots.
Even if you were right and those industries would “need” illegals then whole industries could move to Mexico or China . Those industries don’t have to stay here in the U.S. to import illegals from another country as they can move to that country or China just like manufactoring has. So there is no need to import any cheap, unskilled stone Age labor.Sorry but that’s a fact . The liberal media is lying like they lie when they say Global warming is a real crisis . In either case we don’t need illegals. U.S. manufactoring is moving to China anyway and we still have some jobs opportunities. Although the loss in opportunity is not because high taxes and regulations chased manufactoring away but because of the growth of government , high taxes and the many regulations.
Oh, I agree! I was just saying that some of us have an image of “illegal alien farm worker” = a bunch of sweating campesinos on some big lettuce farm in California. In reality, it’s just as likely (or more likely) to be those same illegals slaughtering beef in Omaha, poultry in Virginia, or hogs in North Carolina.
Here in NC, we’ve got a rapidly exploding illegal population, and a big factor in it are the major ag companies like Smithfield that stack their processing plants full of them, working for low wages and no benefits. Those plants are major employers wherever they are, and bring in huge tax revenue, which is how they keep local government from rocking the boat. And our Rat-controlled state government over in Raleigh shows no signs of doing a damn thing about it.
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The Oligarchs will have their way, WE THE PEOPLE be damned.
“In reality, its just as likely (or more likely) to be those same illegals slaughtering beef in Omaha, poultry in Virginia, or hogs in North Carolina.”
I see your point. Yours is a case of jobs filled by illegals that Americans would be willing to do. Hard, and semi skilled labor that if left to the market would be filled with legal labor, with good wages, and probably unionized. Its factory work. Why shouldn’t legal workers have those jobs and earn factory wages. Hell those jobs could be filled by legal labor and they could join the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. Not a big unionization fan but it beats the immorality and illegality of slave labor which is just about what the illegal immigrant workforce is.
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