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Looking for Mr. Right [it's not Rudy: GOP nominates him at the price of its soul]
townhall ^ | October 26 07 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 10/25/2007 7:55:38 PM PDT by freedomdefender

A McGovernite in 1972, [Rudy] boasted in the campaign of 1993 that he would "rekindle the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition" of New York's GOP and "produce the kind of change New York City saw with ... John Lindsay." He ran on the Liberal Party line and supported Mario Cuomo in 1994.

Pro-abortion, anti-gun, again and again he strutted up Fifth Avenue in the June Gay Pride parade and turned the Big Apple into a sanctuary city for illegal aliens. While Ward Connerly goes state to state to end reverse discrimination, Rudy is an affirmative-action man. ...

A Giuliani presidency would represent the return and final triumph of the Republicanism that conservatives went into politics to purge from power. A Giuliani presidency would represent repudiation by the party of the moral, social and cultural content that, with anti-communism, once separated it from liberal Democrats and defined it as an institution.

Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one's soul.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; giuliani; gop; patbuchanan; rudygiuliani; stoprudy
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1 posted on 10/25/2007 7:55:39 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

Woo hoo!! Go, Pat, Go!!


2 posted on 10/25/2007 7:58:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: freedomdefender
Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one's soul.

Not even....we lose the soul and the power....and get pwn3d by the beast.

3 posted on 10/25/2007 7:59:19 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: freedomdefender
Looking for Mr. Right [it's not Rudy: GOP nominates him at the price of its soul

As I look at leaders such as Norm Coleman from Minnesota and the Earmark Kings we had as leaders for the last several years, I can't get comfortable with idea that the GOP has much soul to meet the price. Another cost is, and can you say out loud, "Madam President?" That will be the ultimate cost.

4 posted on 10/25/2007 8:00:57 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Jim Robinson

not so fast. read on:
Gravitating now to Rudy’s camp are those inveterate opportunists, the neocons, who see in Giuliani their last hope of redemption for their cakewalk war and their best hope for a “Long War” against “Islamofascism.”


5 posted on 10/25/2007 8:02:15 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: freedomdefender

Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one’s soul.


Rudy offers retention of power.

Next.


6 posted on 10/25/2007 8:02:44 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: freedomdefender
This will not happen. I was just reviewing RealClearPolitics and if the Conservatives unite behind Fred Thompson. He beats Rudy in every race.

If and when Tancredo, Huckabee, and Hunter drop out, their supporters will surely come to the only true Conservative left. Fred is not that far behind in all these polls. Rudy will not be the Republican nominee. It just cannot happen. Mitt Romney is just too packaged a presentation for there to be any depth. Romney will waffle on whatever it takes to put him on top.

Conservatives need to consolidate behind Fred Thompson and lets get serious about this contest. Conservatives against RINOS!

7 posted on 10/25/2007 8:02:53 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER! and a FredHEAD!)
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8 posted on 10/25/2007 8:06:28 PM PDT by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: freedomdefender

rudy will never get the nomination. No one wants a president that is a name they cannot spell.


9 posted on 10/25/2007 8:07:12 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: stevem
Buchanan isnt much of a traditional conservative either; given his protectionism and isolationism and crackpot historical perspectives..

Its amazing what a splinter is going on right now on the right. I really think we can thank Bush for that; a freespender who devalued the dollar and put us in an unenviable military predicament which we wont extract from for a long time. An odd turn of events..

10 posted on 10/25/2007 8:08:32 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Senator Goldwater
Rudy offers retention of power. Next.

Nope, he will lose, and we will get a double whammy for it. Rudy is bad news all around, there is not one single thing good about a Rudy nomination....nothing.

11 posted on 10/25/2007 8:10:05 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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Nope, he will lose.


Democrat pollster Celinda Lake has him ahead of Hillary in 31 congressional districts that went Democrat in 2006.

Yep, he’ll win.


12 posted on 10/25/2007 8:16:09 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: freedomdefender
>Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one's soul.

Hillary will beat him like a drum.

In fact, of every politician in America, Rudy is the only one that she has beaten fairly, up and down.

Other than her last Senate race that Rudy had the good sense to stay out of.
The man cannot even deliver NY, let alone the WH.

13 posted on 10/25/2007 8:16:28 PM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: Bobbisox

Get Fred serious first.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 8:23:05 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Senator Goldwater
Democrat pollster Celinda Lake has him ahead of Hillary in 31 congressional districts that went Democrat in 2006. Yep, he’ll win.

He will lose, those polls don't mean squat. He is too liberal, there will either be a 3rd party, a huge write-in, or a huge stay at home among republicans out of revulsion for such a liberal candidate.

Fortunately, as his uber liberal record gets outed by the other candidates he is going down the tubes now and we won't have to face a Rudy disaster after all.

15 posted on 10/25/2007 8:24:41 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: freedomdefender

I’m sorry but a rudy beats the hitlary every time...and NOT at the cost of my soul, but to protect this nation from EVIL!!!!!


16 posted on 10/25/2007 8:24:44 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: freedomdefender
Let's say Rudy becomes President.

He makes a magnificent inaugural speech. He talks tough on terrorism and everything else we're expecting a serious man to say.

Within a week of his Presidency, we'll see Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Castro(?), Zawahiri, ect, taking their turns holding up a photo of the President of the United States dressed-up as Marilyn Monroe.

Has anyone considered this?

17 posted on 10/25/2007 8:28:27 PM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: Nonstatist
Buchanan isnt much of a traditional conservative either; given his protectionism and isolationism and crackpot historical perspectives...Its amazing what a splinter is going on right now on the right. I really think we can thank Bush for that; a freespender who devalued the dollar and put us in an unenviable military predicament which we wont extract from for a long time. An odd turn of events.

I confess to having a soft spot in my head when it comes to Buchanan. Maybe it's because I find his voice sort of hypnotic. I realize he and I would never see eye to eye regarding some of his views regarding the US place in the world, although I don't find him apologetic to be American like most Democrats seem to be.

I don't understand his outspoken hatred for Israel.

I couldn't support Buchanan when he ran for President on the Reform ticket. I do think he did the nation a greeat service in practically destroying that party as a national entity. Maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he did have a life threatening health issue when that campaign should have been rolling. Perhaps Perot would have also garnered only 1% of the vote if he had run that year. Still, it was Buchanan that did the deed. For that we can be grateful.

18 posted on 10/25/2007 8:33:15 PM PDT by stevem
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To: freedomdefender
Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one's soul.

Which is why I'll never vote for him. Not ever.

19 posted on 10/25/2007 8:47:33 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Rudy won’t win because he can’t get more than 25% to 30% of the Rep base, just as McCain could only garner 33% in 2000. Rudy won’t win enough votes in the primaries to get the nomination on the first ballot. And then we will have a brokered convention that will rule out a Giuliani nomination.


20 posted on 10/25/2007 8:51:05 PM PDT by kabar
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