Posted on 10/24/2007 9:53:40 PM PDT by Doofer
Senator Fred Thompson has begun clubbing Rudy Giuliani over his illegal immigration record. Thompson's website has featured comments from both Rudy Giuliani and others making public statements about Giuliani's past illegal immigration record.
Thompsons website has a series of damaging quotes from Giuliani and others regarding Giuliani, included this quote from Giuliani accusing the former mayor of teaming up with Moveon.org supporter George Soros to oppose anti immigration forces:
"Today I am also announcing that my office will be working with a coalition of well-known individuals and organizations who oppose the anti-immigration forces now being seen in Washington and elsewhere. Among the members of this coalition will be...George Soros..." (Rudy Giuliani, Remarks to the Kennedy School of Government, 10/10/96)
At that time Republican Pat Buchanan was campaigning for president against illegal immigration and in support of protecting U.S. borders from future terrorist attacks.
The Republican Party leadership opposed Buchanans platform on issues like immigration and rallied behind Senator Bob Dole for the nomination.
Thompsons website also states that Giuliani reissued Executive Order 124, keeping New York City a 'sanctuary city' and forbidding city employees from reporting illegal immigrants seeking public services. It features this quote from a reporter in 1995:
"Mayor Rudolf (sic) Giuliani, on the other hand, reiterated his commitment to Executive Order 124 of 1989, the edict that prohibits city government officials and employees from snitching on the status of aliens, unless they're involved in criminal activity." (Filipino Reporter, 4/13/95)
Thompsons website also claims that Rudy Giuliani not only allowed New York to become a 'sanctuary city,' it alsoi claims that Giuliani all but recruited illegal immigrants to the city. The website features this quote from the NY Times:
"If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city. You're somebody that we want to protect." (New York Times, 6/10/94)
Thompsons website also claims that then Mayor Giuliani filed a lawsuit to block a federal law that would have required city officials to report illegal immigrants to federal immigration authorities. Another quote from the NY Times:
"...Giuliani today announced that the New York City Corporation Counsel has filed a law suit against the federal government challenging two provisions of the recently enacted Federal Welfare and Immigration laws. ... 'I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems,' Mayor Giuliani said. 'And Washington is only making the problem worse." (New York Times, 10/11/96)
Thompsons own proposals seem to echo Tom Tancredos, calling for an end to federal funds and grants to Sanctuary Cities. Thompson wants to cut off funds to Sanctuary Cities and to Universities offering in state tuition to illegal aliens. .
Thompson also wants to double immigration and Customs Enforcement agents handling interior enforcement. He wants at least 25,000 border patrol agents and go after employers that high illegal aliens.
Thompson also wants English to be the official language.
Fred Thompsons own proposal on immigration seems to call for increased legal immigration. He calls for streamlining the process and reduce backlogs into the country. He wants to simplify and expedite the application processes for temporary visas.
As published on his website it isnt actually clear whether hes calling for a streamlined process or increasing immigration as well.
Recently on U.S. television former Mexican President Vincente Fox called for massive immigration into the U.S. to forward the eventual goal of creating a North American Union.
Fred Thompson was asked about the North American Union over the summer and claimed to not know about it.
Im glad a so called top tier candidate is taking the issue seriously . Its about time ,I dont think these guys, except now Fred ,realize how mad people are about this issue.
Keep hammering Fred ,this is a MAJOR issue ,but I am sure you know you will be attacked by both Republicans and Democrats in the elite wing since they are the ones pushing Amnesty.
"Today I am also announcing that my office will be working with a coalition of well-known individuals and organizations who oppose the anti-immigration forces now being seen in Washington and elsewhere. Among the members of this coalition will be...George Soros..." (Rudy Giuliani, Remarks to the Kennedy School of Government, 10/10/96)
SoroSauron
"Oh stopth it Frederick you bigth meanie stopth it!"
Thanks for the ping. Hooray Fred, great thread! BTTT!
No, the Republican party (as a whole) opposed Buchanan because he appeared to be a nut, an observation later shown to be entirely accurate.
The article also fails to label Mr. Buchanan as a former Republican.
"Today I am also announcing that my office will be working with a coalition of well-known individuals and organizations who oppose the anti-immigration forces now being seen in Washington and elsewhere. Among the members of this coalition will be... George Soros..." (Rudy Giuliani, Remarks to the Kennedy School of Government, 10/10/96)
SoroSauron
There are none so blind as those who will not see. :0)
The acronym would be way too long.
Exposing Rudy at every turn is the best way to wake up the electorate and the conservatives. Watch what Fred does to Hillary when the time comes.
Fred is also making his line in the sand on immigration. Now all we'll hear from the rest of the field is ..."Me too!!!"
I love Fred and will vote for him in my state’s primary. But as of now, I see a Giuliani tsunami coming - even if Fred happens to eke it out in South Carolina (Romney is going to win NH and IA but not get the bounce he hopes for).
Problem is, we are entering the holiday season and no one is going to follow politics again until after Feb. 5.
Giuliani is riding HIGH in the polls and in some states is gaining ground, incredibly.
This is sort of sad, to say the least, b/c I think Hillary is beatable (though not without much work). I think we should nominate Fred or someone else. But Giuliani has pretty well sewn this thing up, and will win in Nov. 08.
I’d love to hear from someone who can offer a reasonable explanation as to why that is wrong...would love to see some hope here, but Giuliani looks to be cruising to a swift victory.
Could some of that still be name recognition? Many people didn't watch the debates and don't follow online. No ads on TV in my neck of the woods. My 77 yr old mom reads the paper and watches local news, etc. Yet at this point, she'd probably say Rudy because that would be the only familiar name.
Fred bump!
Rooty tootie will be a disaster. He will fade in the coming weeks, thankfully.
Yes it would...
Fred better win. He’s the type of conservative I’ve been wanting to vote for “Frederlist”
Florida is going to be key. Fred’s behind, but he has some key Florida Republicans behind him. If Fred takes Florida instead of Rudy, things are going to look awfully different come Super Tuesday.
Could some of that still be name recognition? Many people didn’t watch the debates and don’t follow online. No ads on TV in my neck of the woods. My 77 yr old mom reads the paper and watches local news, etc. Yet at this point, she’d probably say Rudy because that would be the only familiar name.”
Could well be. But I think we are starting to run very short on time, what with the holidays and all. Moving the primaries earlier and earlier helps those candidates with name recognition.
Florida is going to be key. Freds behind, but he has some key Florida Republicans behind him. If Fred takes Florida instead of Rudy, things are going to look awfully different come Super Tuesday.”
I suppose if Fred pulls off FL, he will have some life. But do you think if Rudy hangs on in Giuliani, then he isbasically in the pole position going into Feb. 5? In other words, do you think if Rudy takes FL, then he is the nominee?
Aborthion,,, aborthion... aborthion...
I with you all would thtop it!
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