Dr. Kevorkian voluntarily brought the end to peoples lives
Dr. Paul voluntarily wants to ends the life of the Republican Party and kill our troops mission in Iraq
Posted on 10/24/2007 12:03:08 PM PDT by traviskicks
Is Ron Paul crazy for his position on the war and for criticizing our nation's foreign policy? Many believe this to be the case. But, might we be mischaracterizing Ron Paul by over simplifying or clouding the issues? A much closer examination based on facts and sound principles is in order. In the end I will conclude that Ron Paul is indeed crazy. Sorry to spoil it for you.
There are many things in his favor. To answer pressing questions of our time, Ron Paul relies on historical facts many American's are ignorant of. He isn't afraid to reveal clandestine operations and interventions motivated out of our national self-interest or special-interests that have had detrimental results to other peoples in the world.
He is even bold enough to admit there is a tendency on the part of government to cover-up things to maintain a façade that we are always on moral high-ground in the world. Some see in him a rare privilege to have a candidate step forward with a willingness to reveal these inconvenient truths while others choose to characterize him as a “Blame America First” fringe candidate and dismiss the possibility that he could be on to something.
Ron Paul's tendency towards transparency on these matters is at the root of why he is being attacked and marginalized because there is so much denial due to various forms of conditioning of people's opinions. Some people simply can't accept the reality that we are not always angelic and beneficial to others in the world as we were taught in grade school but this is an area where a reality check is definitely in order.
For example, who is it that "radicalized" Islam to fight against the Russians? We did! We created Osama Bin Laden. We created and installed Sadaam Hussein. We have been purposely destabilizing numerous regions and have and are causing all kinds of malice and strife among nations. Could Al Qaeda actually be like Frankenstein’s Monster? Do we really want to tamper so frivolously with the Law of the Harvest as we have been for decades? We deserve to know the facts as a self-governing nation so that We the People can make the best decisions. It’s our responsibility to search them out.
Ron Paul’s popularity is because there are many who are hungry for answers that make sense of all they see going on in the world who don't buy the idea that we are hated because we are rich and free. These people want the truth and are willing to accept the truth of our nation’s imperfections, even if they are unintended consequences of well-meaning actions. Inevitably, this is the crowd who is willing to face up to the reality this implies and to seek to make the world a better place in as peaceful manner as possible. Does this sound insane to you?
Ron Paul’s impeccable record of public and private conduct gives him a very rare position to speak on all matters of his platform without hypocrisy; especially where Constitutional matters are concerned. Coupled with his obvious absence of guile when he speaks he is greatly enlarging the soul of this nation. He is the heart of a much needed revolution to put aside shaping this world through force and control and replacing it with going back to setting a good example and using persuasion and friendship instead, reserving force of arms strictly for self-defense as a last resort only. Is this crazy?
Ron Paul sees Iran as acting in a very logical manner based on what he knows of the history and current events. He recognizes all we are doing to engender strife and conflict and sees how it is coming back to haunt us as countries seek to defend themselves against our policies of aggression. He sees how the continuation and escalation of these failing policies of our past will simply make our national security more threatened. There is an excellent video hosted by TownHall.com where Ron Paul talks about this: Video Link
I am eager to hear other's perspectives and see if I can discern any blind spots or failings in Ron Paul's platform but so far nobody has prevailed against him. Bill O'Reilley’s attempt was miserable because he refused historical facts and valid parallels to be examined to establish a reasoned perspective. Please watch this video: Video Link
There was a post here on TownHall.com by Phil Harris on 10/23/07 where he says that Ron Paul is giving a prescription for disaster but Phil also failed to convince me. In fact, Phil convinced me all the more that Ron Paul's detractors are the ones prescribing the path to disaster. The path Phil promoted is nothing short of an all-out full scale escalation of war with the defined goal to utterly and totally subdue the Islamic people based on the notion that the Islamic people simply want Israel and the USA exterminated from the planet. He promotes the idea that we either annihilate them pre-emptively or they will annihilate us. He leaves no room for any other scenario in his perspective. In either case he promotes there is certain disaster so by his own admission he is the one issuing the prescription of disaster, not Ron Paul.
This kind of over simplification is a brainwashing tactic that tries to get people to think they are helpless and without alternatives while they accuse their opponent of exactly what they themselves are guilty of. Reasoning from a fear-based viewpoint tends to exhibit this kind of contracted and self-accusing thinking and those doing it are knowingly or unknowingly acting as an agent for those who stand to benefit from the war and destruction this mentality will assure. Phil acts as if we are totally powerless to effect real solutions that will avert the death and destruction an all out world conflict would cause. Thanks to having Ron Paul on the stage we get to hear valid alternatives even if they sound crazy to some.
There is a better way but it involves us humbling ourselves as a nation and repenting of our evils we have perpetrated and forgiving the evils that have been perpetrated against us. The world overall will be a much better place by abiding by these principles and trusting in our Creator who gave us these principles with the promise that “eternal life” comes to all who abide by them. This is Ron Paul's platform and it will save this nation, not sacrifice it.
With all the advances in technology we had better evolve as a people before we self-destruct and render our precious planet uninhabitable in our foolish pride and fears born of false assumptions. Could the “eternal life” spoken of in the Bible actually be referring to the set of principles we must collectively live by in order to avoid a conflict to such a point that this planet is rendered unable to accommodate our presence? This question deserves our most serious and sincere consideration. The last person we want in front of "the button" is a myopic fear-based person who is prone to shoot first and ask questions later.
Our current mentality insists that we have to force and sculpt global conditions to stamp out any potential threat pre-emptively as if there is no Creator watching over and protecting this nation. Unfortunately, this is the very mentality that will cause us to become unworthy of divine protection and we will be left to our own strength and devices and we will become considered as “salt that has lost its savor” and we will end up “trodden under the foot of men”. This is universal law in my book.
I implore everyone to set aside some time to do some sincere and humble research into this issue and even make it a matter of prayer/meditation and fasting. I challenge everyone to assure you are not taking this responsibility to chose our Commander in Chief lightly. I challenge all to step up and articulate their position that strikes against the establishment's headlong plunge of our nation into an abyss of death and destruction as Phil, not Ron Paul, is prescribing.
And, as I promised, I do sincerely conclude that yes, Ron Paul is crazy. He is taking on a very powerful group that have patiently endeavored for generations to acquire the positions of power they control and Ron Paul is courageously standing up and giving our nation an opportunity to wake up and keep this nation a free country governed by We the People. The adversary of our freedom is only authorized to sieze the power we willingly lay down. If we don't wisely govern ourselves the default governance imposes a loss of our liberties and we only have ourselves to blame. There is nothing to fear when we seek with all our hearts, might, mind and strength to be responsible and passionate about maintaining our liberties. Darkness cannot abide the light.
This is a very defining moment in our nation's history. All Americans should do a reality check on Ron Paul before dismissing him. We as a nation of self-governance must be willing to stand up and accept the responsibility to be vigilant in preserving our individual liberties and champion those who take the lead, crazy though they are for doing it.
Lets say all those assertions are true. Ron Paul still ignores that Saddam was a threat to the US after Kuwait.
Precisely. And that is my set answer whenever anyone asks “but, but, but, all OUR fault! All our fault!”
To which I smile and reply “think of it as a ‘market correction.’”
We helped arm his fighters in their battles against the Russians
The Mujihadin were not 'Osama's fighters'. Osama left college and aligned himself with the Azzam faction of the Mujihadin in 1979. Osama later funded the Mujihadin through the Maktab al-Khadamat, completely separately from the official US support of the Mujihadin.(Officially, the Maktab al-Khadamat was not Osama's organization but was Azzam's).. He was fighting the same battle, but he was not who we directly supported.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-30%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=Larry+Fester+
Larry Fester’s credential are? He has an opinion?
And they're willing to benevolently rule over Jews and Christians too. We'd be better off.
More support Ron Paul should reject, but won't.
WEAR GREEN AGAINST ISLAMO-FASCISM WEEK!
Just to make it clear in response to a load of e-mails I've received, Jews are our cousins and brothers in faith. Just because Israel is a terrorist state does not mean Muslims are anti-semetic for denouncing it as a corrupt US-backed Zionist entity. Zionists are not all Jewish by the way.
The only so-called clash between Jews and Muslims occurred in recent history when the West created it. Before that, we coexisted in peace. In fact, there was even a time when Muslims RULED OVER Jews and Christians. Under this rule the Jews were so well accepted in society that Jewish religious, cultural, and economic life blossomed. This time period has been coined the Golden Age for Jewish culture. Read more about it here and here.
Christians, Jews & Muslims for Ron Paul!
Also, all the propagandists talking about Islam's Mahdi on the news and elsewhere have no real understanding of the subject. The Madhi is the ultimate savior of mankind FROM mankind destroying itself. An obligation of a Muslim is to work against man destroying himself. Today, when you hear a Muslim wishing for the Madhi's reappearance it's not because he wants mankinds destruction, it's because he believes we are already at a stage where we our destroying ourselves overwhelmingly.
When the Madhi re-appears, there will be peace and harmony between all. Those who love injustice, oppression, thievery and lies -- they will be the ones who should fear his reappearance. Why? Because he'll stop them. He'll lift up those who are oppressed. Who are the oppressed? Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Blacks, Whites --- EVERYBODY is included in this equation. He's not just for Muslims. The coming of the Mahdi will be such that the Christian will be ruled by his Christian law, the Jew will be ruled by his Judaic law, and every human being will be judged by their own belief law. But Allah's law will supercede all of them and ensure there is no hegemony, no stealing, no cheating, no murdering, no sending armies and occupying other peoples land while taking their lives away, or stealing resources because one nation believes themselves to be superior -- these are all unexceptable.
InshAllah (God-willing), we pray for his re-appearance. We pray for freedom, peace and justice.
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That's true, just as he refuses to recognize there's an ideological Islamic enemy out there which is a threat to us today.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Larry+Fester+-ron+paul&hl=en&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-30%2CGGLG%3Aen
Slim pickings when you remove ron paul from the search.
Even slimmer when you search for “Larry Fester” instead of Larry and Fester:
Exactly correct.
You cannot deal with history without dealing with historical context.
We aided the Soviet Union to defeat a more dangerous foe at the time, Nazi Germany and Japan.
Were some bad decisions made, without a doubt,(the Democrats were weak with the Communists), but they were made within an immediate historical context that has to be taken into account.
The issue we fact today is radical Islam, which due largely to the non action decisions of Carter (Iran) and Clinton (not responding with force to acts of terrorism), has become a threat to our national security.
Now, Ron Paul may have some legimate better ways to combat terrorism, such as giving more freedom to the individual to be armed (pilots), and that is what we need to start dealing with, not trying to blame this WOT on the U.S.
Dr. Kevorkian voluntarily brought the end to peoples lives
Dr. Paul voluntarily wants to ends the life of the Republican Party and kill our troops mission in Iraq
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That should cover any language issues as well...
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“suggesting we wear green this week”
Maybe someone should shoot over across the way and ask Charles Johnson to temporarily call his blog site “Little Fuschia Footballs”
There was a link on Drudge earlier today about Bush being a bigger spender than LBJ.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/20767.html
“””That tops the 4.6 percent annual rate Johnson logged during his 1963-69 presidency. By these standards, Ronald Reagan was a tightwad; discretionary spending grew by only 1.9 percent a year on his watch.””””
We can have a long talk about how folks in the Middle East think that we supported Saddam Hussein. Created and installed is pure BS.
You don’t have to look any futher than the 80-88 Iran-Iraq War to see where we provided military equipment to Saddam in his War against the Shi’s in Iran.
I still hear the conspiracy theories about how the US Embassador to Iraq, woman by the name of Glaspie, supposedly gave tacit approval to Saddams invasion of Kuwait on 8/2/90. Nonsense, since even Tariq Aziz, the only Christian in Saddams inner circle said that he expected a strong negative response from the USA.
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