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Uneasy Feelings Moving In [Islamic Center]
Washington Post ^ | October 23, 2007 | Philip Rucker

Posted on 10/23/2007 7:52:02 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: highball

What you are proposing is a one sided suicide pact.


41 posted on 10/23/2007 8:47:12 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: 3AngelaD

This is disgraceful. How is our leadership allowing this?


42 posted on 10/23/2007 8:49:26 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Lazarus Longer

Exactly. “The natives always put up resistance at first, but we are used to it and will prevail. We will use their own laws and Constitution against them to take over.”


43 posted on 10/23/2007 8:52:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: caseinpoint
You stated you were not in favor of using "Liberal Tactics" to prevent this ... short of violence and within the law I proposed we use any and all tactics, including liberal tactics, to prevent this type of invasion by mohammadens!
44 posted on 10/23/2007 9:00:53 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
What you are proposing is a one sided suicide pact.

No, what I'm opposing is consistent devotion to the Constitution. We can't just ignore it for short-term political gain.

45 posted on 10/23/2007 9:01:44 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Look at the case against the Dallas Islamic center funding terrorism that fell apart yesterday. The case was made that Hamas doesn’t JUST use the money for terrorist acts.

Too bad that if they were Americans, it wouldn’t matter (see RICO). Activist courts have used it to try to shut down the entire pro-life movement by seizing their assets when any bad link can be found. Same was done to the KKK. But even when an Islamic group is clearly shown to be funding a terrorist group, it results in a hung jury.


46 posted on 10/23/2007 9:02:31 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Ugh. I gratefully accept the spelling correction.


47 posted on 10/23/2007 9:03:02 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 3AngelaD
"...not surprised there are people who are angry, but....

Muslim apologist code for everything.

48 posted on 10/23/2007 9:03:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: 3AngelaD
I was struck by Intisar Abbasi's comment, "I'm not surprised there
are people who are angry, but, you know, that's part of the process."...


The Islamics know there's going to be a bit of friction while
building The New Caliphate.
49 posted on 10/23/2007 9:04:48 AM PDT by VOA
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To: dennisw

Dirty little secret. The Saudis sold out the rest of the world decades ago. The Wahabis wanted their skulls on a platter and seized Mecca if I recall. In exchange for “stablizing” things in Saudi Arabia, they agreed to fund Wahabism around the world to the tune of millions per mosque.

There IS no separation of church/mosque and state. The Saudis should not be permitted to establish more of their apartheid learning centers in the West until they permit FREEDOM OF RELIGION in Saudi Arabia. Permit the open missionary of other faiths INTO Saudi Arabia and the open conversion of muslims away from Islam, not just kufir in their presence with fewer rights under the law.


50 posted on 10/23/2007 9:06:11 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: 3AngelaD
I think the people of this community are justified in using whatever tools are at their disposal to turn back the tide.

I respectfully disagree.

The answer to corruption is not more corruption of our own. Our response to Democrat voter fraud ought to be prosecution, not casting fraudulent votes for Republicans to balance those out.

Either the Constitution means something, or it doesn't.

51 posted on 10/23/2007 9:09:09 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 3AngelaD
I have a dreadful feeling some liberal court will trample on the townspeeeples. On the grounds that a new zoning law is clearly aimed at one particle target, or that a new zoning law can't be retroactive, or that it's discriminatory, or that it's freedom of religion, or whatever twist some Breyer-type can put on this case.

One thing is fer shur, the Moose-limbs' demands will be granted more weight than the community's wishes.

Leni

52 posted on 10/23/2007 9:10:29 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Enter the FReepathon Mother Freep Nursery Rhyme CONTEST!!! Click # 24 of the FReepathon thread!)
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To: G8 Diplomat
I live in Southern Frederick County, about 10-15 minutes from Walkersville.

If this deal goes through, the next thing we;ll witness is that the homes going up for sale in the surrounding subdivisions will be purchased by practicing muslims.

And the properties won't linger on the market...even in this DEAD real estate market.

53 posted on 10/23/2007 9:13:04 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: 3AngelaD

Let’s see...5,500 American residents, and up to 10,000 Muslims moving in...there, I thought about the math. Denied.


54 posted on 10/23/2007 9:33:34 AM PDT by Sender (Can I just post until I need glasses?)
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To: 3AngelaD
This story represents another incursion by foreign enemies into the U.S. under the guise of "religion" --- but with a twist. A vulnerable twist.

If any such muslim compound, mosque or "learning (!)" center is proposed anywhere in the United States it must be funded entirely by U.S. citizens or residents.

Allowing Saudi Arabia, directly, or through that doofus Sandmaggot Irish "citizen", Sheikh Khalid Bin Mahfouz, to build propaganda sources in the U.S. should be forbidden by federal law.

Yes, it should be that simple.
American muslims should be free to build whatever they want, but not terrorist training centers disguised as "learning centers", and funded by hostile foreign powers.

55 posted on 10/23/2007 9:56:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: 2banana
If these were neo-nazis - would we even have a debate?

I would say "yes", properly so; "Freedom of Speech" has evolved in the last 60 years, for better or for worse ---BUT---

Not if funded directly or indirectly by Nazi Germany!

56 posted on 10/23/2007 10:05:01 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: highball
Either the Constitution means something, or it doesn't.

In case you've forgotten, we're talking about a small, peaceful, law-abiding American town that's being invaded by a virulent cult that doesn't recognize secular law.

If you are truly a Constitutionalist, then you clearly understand that the Constitution will in fact be rendered utterly meaningless within this town if this cult succeeds in its efforts. As such, in order to preserve the sanctity of the Constitution and the rule of law, you must stop them. Period. Not just try to stop them or go through the motions of stopping them, but actually stop them. You don't get the privilege of saying after the fact, "Oh, well, we tried everything reasonable and proper, but it wasn't enough," because in such a scenario the fact is that the cult will have taken over the town and the Constitutional law that you value will cease to exist there.

I guess it comes down to a fundamental moral question: When faced with a fight for your life, do you want to come out tarnished but alive, or do you want to be the most righteous body in the morgue? I guess every individual has to answer that question for himself, but as for me, I know I'll always find a way to forgive myself later as long as I live through the fight.

57 posted on 10/23/2007 10:12:40 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: 3AngelaD
There was a story like this in an educator's magazine in the mid-90's. I wish I could remember the the town and I think it was in New Hanpshire.

Islamics wanted to put in a huge school and have their area incorporated, as I recall.

In the end the Islamics made a huge donation that the town needed in order to bring in more water.

58 posted on 10/23/2007 10:16:07 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: highball
Time to slow things down by demanding an environmental impact study be conducted.
I don't know about that. It's the kind of desperate stalling tactic libs use when they can't win in the marketplace of ideas.

But there is now a better way... and trendy and topical, too!
From the Central Valley in California...

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59 posted on 10/23/2007 10:25:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Omedalus
In case you've forgotten, we're talking about a small, peaceful, law-abiding American town that's being invaded by a virulent cult that doesn't recognize secular law.

Unless and until they are so designated such by law, the characterization is not relevant.

Liberals would say the same about many religious groups. They would certainly say the same about pro-life groups (remember their glee in applying RICO?).

There is a legal process. Until that day, these Muslims have the same protections under the Constitution that we do. I'm shocked and disappointed that conservatives would advocate Lib tactics.

60 posted on 10/23/2007 10:26:46 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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