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Uneasy Feelings Moving In [Islamic Center]
Washington Post ^ | October 23, 2007 | Philip Rucker

Posted on 10/23/2007 7:52:02 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Muslim Sect's Proposal for Extensive Center Unsettles Small Frederick County Town...Nestled near the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains on the rural outskirts of Frederick, and many of them are praying that this hamlet of 5,500 will be able to stop a proposed development.

A Silver Spring-based Muslim sect has proposed buying the town's largest farm to build a retreat and Islamic worship center that would host up to 10,000 people annually for a national religious convention.

Under the proposal, the 224-acre farm's colonial-era house...would be converted into living space for an imam and other clergy from the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA. The main prayer and recreation center would be topped with a 65-foot spire...

Public outcry has been so intense that some town officials are maneuvering to adopt zoning law amendments that could block the project. The town's planning commission will vote tonight on an ordinance to prohibit building places of worship and private clubs on land zoned for agriculture. On Nov. 1, the town's board of appeals will hold a final public hearing and could vote whether to allow the Ahmadiyya community to build its retreat on the property, which is zoned for agriculture....

For their part, the Ahmadiyya community has launched an aggressive public relations campaign...

Legally, the town's hands are tied. Making land-use decisions on religious or racial grounds is unconstitutional, and the town can deny the sect's proposal only if there are legitimate concerns about traffic, infrastructure or planning.

Intisar Abbasi, said he hopes his fellow Muslims will become a part of Walkersville. "I love the community, and the people are wonderful," Abbasi said. "I'm not surprised there are people who are angry, but, you know, that's part of the process."...

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TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadiyyamuslims; crushislam; islam; muslims; takingover
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To: 3AngelaD
I can't wait to hear this 1000 watt racket blasting across Frederick County 5 times a day.

http://www.toursaudiarabia.com/audio/athan.rm (Real Player)

21 posted on 10/23/2007 8:12:50 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: 3AngelaD

I tend to agree. You don’t need to buy a 225-acre farm to host a 10,000-strong convention once a year. There are plenty of convention centers who will gladly host such an event. The use for housing for an imam and some clergy probably means setting up a school (or maddrassa), at a minimum. Check to see if the farm can be subdivided because in California some Islamist groups have tried to form enclaves in the foothills (they went belly up, I believe but that is beside the point) and that also might be in the plan. Further, even if you don’t use the farm for housing, more Islamists will move to the burg and soon will have a voting bloc capable of getting what they want.

I don’t want to use liberal tactics to stop progress but I think there are legitimate reasons to oppose an exclusivist group from setting up a large shop in a small town. JMHO


22 posted on 10/23/2007 8:13:17 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: highball

imminent = eminent

though eminent domain should be imminent if we are in a hurry...


23 posted on 10/23/2007 8:13:46 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: 3AngelaD
The way to fight this is quite simple. The money involved here is so large, that there is a strong likelihood the source is Saudi Arabia or other Wahhabi financing agents.

Also very helpful is the recent Federal recommendation to close the Saudi maddrassa in Virginia.

Using this the town and state should hold up the sale and zoning approval, for years if neccessary, until a proper investigation can be done regarding the source of funding, the proposed content of teaching/conferences and whether it also espouses Islamic radicalism, and a complete Federal, state and local investigation and background check of every single individual proposed for employment at this center.

It would take at least 5 years to complete this process. By that time, I assure you the Saudis will look for another site for this center.

24 posted on 10/23/2007 8:14:13 AM PDT by montag813
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To: 3AngelaD

Takes a lot of property off the tax rolls.


25 posted on 10/23/2007 8:15:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: montag813

These people are Pakistanis and Indians, not Saudis, which in some ways is worse.


26 posted on 10/23/2007 8:22:15 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

There must be some kind of endangered snail or whatever that could be found under a rock. It happens so often in OTHER areas.


27 posted on 10/23/2007 8:23:01 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: 3AngelaD
The Ahmadiyya community is simply trying to take over this town.

Do you think any of their more violent brethren might have an interest in absconding with some of the nasty stuff down at Ft. Detrick? The place is not exactly Fort Knox where security is concerned.

Hey, I'm not making an accusation here. I'm just sayin'. You know what I'm sayin'?

28 posted on 10/23/2007 8:23:45 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

I think the problems in Walkersville would more likely be drainage and runoff.


29 posted on 10/23/2007 8:25:34 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

Frederick, MD? I live about an hour from there. There’s a mosque like 10 minutes away from my home too. Man, the Mexican invasion is bad enough, but an Islamic invasion is even worse!


30 posted on 10/23/2007 8:31:39 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: 3AngelaD

Remember when the US military was brought in to crush a religious community accused of manufacturing modified guns for some kind of apocalyptic clash? Their numbers dwarf those of these Wahabi funded Islamic military training camps.

The videos have been viewed. Jihadists training in North America. But we need to show a new “sensitivity” while waiting to have our throats cut.

The Mexican Army is welcome to cross our Southern border escorting drug traffickers with a written statement (later denied) by Homeland Security for border agents to stand down and give them room if there is an encounter.

It’s crazy.


31 posted on 10/23/2007 8:32:20 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

How can there be a separation of church and state when a FOREIGN state (Saudi Arabia’s government) is funding the expansion of their intolerant (Islamics ONLY in S.A.) state religion?


32 posted on 10/23/2007 8:33:34 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: caseinpoint
"I don’t want to use liberal tactics to stop progress ..."

This is not progress it is a set back of 700+ years. And any tactic, short of violence, that will prevent it are in order!

33 posted on 10/23/2007 8:33:42 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 3AngelaD

Follow the money. What foreigners are paying for this crap? No way are Americans funding this


34 posted on 10/23/2007 8:34:33 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: dennisw

Probably the Saudis


35 posted on 10/23/2007 8:37:46 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: 3AngelaD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadi

Read the wiki on the Ahmadiyya
They are the Muslim kooks that have a lot of “Jesus things” going on. Conventional Muslims don’t like them


36 posted on 10/23/2007 8:39:35 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“And any tactic, short of violence, that will prevent it are in order!”

Don’t know that I would advocate going that far. Maybe if it were a legal tactic short of violence, I might support it but there are plenty of legitimate ways to get more information on the impact of this proposed development. It is fair to question noise, parking, future use of the farmland beyond the annual convention, requirements of the proposed new owners for accommodation from the neighbors, (i.e., could they dictate how neighbors could use their land?) etc., etc.

We both agree violence isn’t the answer and that more information certainly needs to be provided. As I said earlier, one doesn’t buy a farm to hold an annual convention and put a couple of clergymen into the house so something more is obviously planned for the land.


37 posted on 10/23/2007 8:42:17 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Ahmadiyya are complicated the way the Mary worshiping Alewites of Syria are. Not Saudi financing here.

Ahmadiyya are kooky same as Sufi


38 posted on 10/23/2007 8:42:30 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Legally, the town's hands are tied. Making land-use decisions on religious or racial grounds is unconstitutional

The argument could easily be made that Islam is not a religion.

39 posted on 10/23/2007 8:42:41 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"I'm not surprised there are people who are angry, but, you know, that's part of the process."...

The process of the Islamicization of America, that is.

40 posted on 10/23/2007 8:46:12 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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