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Hunter still upbeat about presidential bid
NC Times ^ | 10/23/07 | Mark Walker

Posted on 10/23/2007 7:48:38 AM PDT by pissant

WASHINGTON ---- He doesn't draw throngs like Barack Obama or Rudy Giuliani, but U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter has admirers in his longshot bid for the presidency.

The El Cajon lawmaker, who hasn't been able to move his campaign from the bottom tier of GOP candidates, met one of those fans in his Capitol Hill office recently.

"I really admire you and I'm glad you're running," Joe Sangiorgio, a George Washington University political science student and congressional intern, said while getting his picture taken with his choice for president. "I plan to vote for you, and I would give your campaign $50 million if I could."

Sangiorgio must not be paying much attention to the polls or standings in the race for campaign cash: Hunter is polling no more than 3 percent outside California and has raised a relative pauper's sum of less than $2 million.

Despite those numbers, the congressman told the North County Times earlier this month that he has no thoughts of dropping out.

Hunter also reflected on his record in Congress during the last 26 years, saying he is proud of his efforts on behalf of the military and defense industries, and that he believes large numbers of U.S. troops would leave Iraq next year.

Tough odds

Hunter's odds of getting elected president are pegged at 200-1 in Las Vegas, and his chances of raising anywhere near $50 million that Sangiorgio wished for, or suddenly winning favor among a large portion of the electorate, are seen by most observers as slim and none.

Despite that, the affable Hunter has nothing to lose by staying in the race, said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College who specializes in national politics.

"There's really no reason for him to withdraw yet," Pitney said last week. "He gets to take part in national debates standing next to the party's eventual nominee. This could be his last chance for national television exposure, so why give it up?

"He's retiring from Congress, where his party is now in the minority, so staying in and taking part in the primaries is all gain and no pain."

The low numbers Hunter has been getting don't appear to bother the folksy politician, whose 52nd Congressional District includes parts of Poway and Ramona. The former chairman and now-ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee claimed he's had no thoughts of abandoning the effort and suggested surprise at even being asked the question.

"I'm not afraid of an election," he said. "To get out before the first numbers come in doesn't make any sense."

In debates, Hunter speaks forcefully about his desire to protect American jobs, and the needs to improve border security and maintain a strong military.

As the major candidates raise many millions to pay for media buys and dozens of political operatives, Hunter's Oct. 15 campaign finance report shows he has raised a paltry $1.7 million with only $132,741 in available cash. That compares with another bottom-tier candidate, U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, who dropped out of the race Friday despite having raised more than twice as much as Hunter.

"We don't have a bunch of consultants that we have to pay," Hunter said as he munched on a turkey sandwich during a break in a series of votes taking place on the House floor. "We run a highly efficient operation."

'Great effect'

Rather than spend his campaign cash on media buys and staff, Hunter gets his message out through the "free media" at presidential debates and as a frequent guest on conservative radio and television. He travels to campaign events by commercial airliner, often relying on volunteers or a single paid staffer to shuttle him around once he's on the ground.

And despite only winning a couple of straw polls, the hawkish conservative will look you straight in the eye and say he is in to win.

"The real contest doesn't start until the January primaries, and I intend to do well in those elections," he said during a conversation in his congressional office, a large room adorned with numerous mementos and pictures of Hunter and his supporters during his time in office.

Hunter said he believes he has influenced the debate, pointing to his criticism of U.S. trade policy with China, which he says gives the Asian giant an unfair advantage over American manufacturers. He also claims to be the first to call for pre-emptive military action against Iran if it's shown that country is near production of an atomic weapon.

The leading GOP candidates have followed suit on Iran, building a fence along the majority of the border with Mexico and improving the trade and economic climate for U.S. manufacturers to preserve American jobs, he said.

"I think we're having a great effect. I'm out there every day trying to do the best I can to communicate my ideas and see if we can't draw a crowd."

But the crowds haven't responded in the way he had hoped. Nonetheless, he said plans to stay around after the first round of primaries and caucuses.

How long after that?

"If you get to the point where you're not getting any numbers at all and can't possibly recover, you don't stay in just for symbolic reasons," he said.

Congressional career

As he wraps up the penultimate year of his congressional career, Hunter said he will always be proud of his relationship with the military.

"The Armed Services Committee is one where you can really get things done," said the Vietnam War veteran, who was the panel's chairman until this year. "I was able to help rebuild the military during the Reagan era and work through the start of the missile defense system and the Contra wars."

In recent months, he has helped speed the development of new mine-resistant armored personnel carriers and increase funding and attention on efforts to defeat roadside bombs.

"We're in a new era of terrorists with technology and we've got to be able to respond. You take the best positions you can and try every day to do something good for this country.

"It's a long war, and there's not going to be any surrender ceremony like we saw on deck of the battleship USS Missouri at the end of World War II."

Despite some accusations of ties to men convicted or charged in the scandal of his friend and former U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham, that relationship has not dogged Hunter on the campaign trail. Beyond a defense attorney's failed effort to subpoena him and other lawmakers, Hunter's name has not surfaced in any of the investigations linked to the now-imprisoned Cunningham.

When Hunter leaves Congress, his replacement could be his son, Duncan Duane Hunter, a U.S. Marine now serving in Afghanistan. The younger Hunter will face at least two other GOP challengers during the primary in his bid to keep a Hunter hold on the 52nd District and the family philosophy a part of California's congressional delegation.

Iraq and beyond

Somewhat surprisingly, Hunter is opposed to seeing the Marine Corps leave Iraq and assume major combat responsibility in Afghanistan, which Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway is advocating.

Hunter said he would rather see the 25,000 Marines come home from Iraq, as that country's fledgling army assumes responsibility for security with quick reaction forces called in if needed.

"Al-Qaida has been defeated on the battlefield in Anbar because of the hard work of the Marines," he said. "I would like to see the Marines rotate out of Iraq, and Afghanistan should be a place where our NATO allies really start participating in a more robust manner."

He predicted that the number of U.S. troops in Iraq next year will be far lower than the current 160,000. Putting greater pressure on the Iraqis to provide their own security could lead to substantial withdrawal of U.S. troops in the coming months, he said.

"The Iraq army can take over a lot faster than many people think," he said.


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To: Rita Hayworth

If character counted then 99% of republicans would be voting for Hunter.

Character does not count because alot of idiots who call themselves conservatives are supporting a lying sack of sh*t liberal NY mayor, a Kerry-esque flip flopper from MA, a man who can’t even own up to his pro-abortion past statements or his role in decimating the 1st Amendment, a backstabbing, unstable gang of 14 hack, and an amnesty loving, pandering precher.


61 posted on 10/23/2007 9:28:04 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Rita Hayworth
"Character counts."

Character is doing the right thing when no one is looking.

62 posted on 10/23/2007 9:28:27 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss

Spin is all you have to pretend that your weak sister is a conservative, toots.


63 posted on 10/23/2007 9:30:21 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: rednesss

Do you see Hillary getting millions of Red Chinese money as a problem?


64 posted on 10/23/2007 9:32:47 AM PDT by wastedyears (A cosmic castaway)
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To: rednesss; pissant

..when are you going to trot out the Randy Cunningham innuendo —you have no argument to provide on policy positions, so you bring out this stuff which you couldn’t get rid of at a yard sale...


65 posted on 10/23/2007 9:33:41 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: pissant
"Or did the entire house use the same perk? "

I guess your mother never taught you the "if everyone jumped off a cliff, would you follow" lesson. Tssk, tssk, tssk.

66 posted on 10/23/2007 9:34:22 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776934/posts?page=30#30

Excerpts:

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Coronado) learned Thursday that he was cleared of any criminal wrongdoing involving his hundreds of overdrafts at the House Bank.

(snip)

As a self-described "industrial strength" overdrafter, Hunter paid extra for protection against bounced checks in Coronado.

67 posted on 10/23/2007 9:35:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: WalterSkinner

It’s funny, in a sad kinda way. The fact that there are many “conservatives” that do not want Hunter’s ascendancy tells me there are many fake conservatives.


68 posted on 10/23/2007 9:37:09 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: WalterSkinner
"when are you going to trot out the Randy Cunningham innuendo "

Well now that you bring it up, Frank C. Collins III was a Duncan Hunter District Director and then went on to become Randy Cunningham's Chief of Staff. I'm bettin' the two stayed in touch with each other.

69 posted on 10/23/2007 9:39:36 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Dead Corpse

We all agree that Hunter is the most respected presidential candidate here.


70 posted on 10/23/2007 9:39:55 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("Just 3 hours a day with Rudy Guiliani is all I ask" -- Sean Hannity is on!)
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To: Calpernia
NOT AT THE HOUSE BANK

They didn't have an overdraft protection because they simply let members write all the checks that they wanted to.

71 posted on 10/23/2007 9:41:04 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss

What does the sentence mean than?


72 posted on 10/23/2007 9:42:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: wastedyears
"Do you see Hillary getting millions of Red Chinese money as a problem?"

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China????

Hillary's felonious behavior shouldn't be used to justify DH's actions.

73 posted on 10/23/2007 9:43:59 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss

How did they checks get paid then, MENSA?


74 posted on 10/23/2007 9:44:57 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: rednesss

The Chinese laundered millions through minimum wage workers to give to her.

What Hunter did is more serious than that?


75 posted on 10/23/2007 9:45:51 AM PDT by wastedyears (A cosmic castaway)
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To: Calpernia

“What does the sentence mean than?”

You’re confusing his banking activities at his California bank and his checks he kited on the U.S. House bank. The Bank of Coronado, like any other bank, would offer overdraft protection, the U.S. House bank did not.


76 posted on 10/23/2007 9:45:57 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
77 posted on 10/23/2007 9:49:51 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: rednesss

>>>the U.S. House bank did not.

This article says it does:

“...including the House Bank’s de facto overdraft protection.”


78 posted on 10/23/2007 9:50:37 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: wastedyears
"The Chinese laundered millions through minimum wage workers to give to her.

What Hunter did is more serious than that?"

So a person who robs a 7-11 is better than a person who murders someone??? Isn't that called "moral relativism"????

So since there are politicians out there who have committed far more egregious offenses, your guy should get a pass because his sins were not as bad???? Am I understanding you correctly????

79 posted on 10/23/2007 9:51:14 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: pissant

America’s finest. BTTT!


80 posted on 10/23/2007 9:52:42 AM PDT by PGalt
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