Posted on 10/22/2007 11:07:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Boston Globes lead: "The eight Republican candidates for president held a fiery debate last night filled with charges and confrontations about who is a true conservative and "real Republican" as they defended their stands on issues such as abortion, gay marriage, and taxes."
The Los Angeles Times headlines the Thompson-Giuliani skirmishes. And it adds, "With groans and cheers, more than 3,000 spectators in the convention hall punctuated the scrappy back-and-forth among the candidates."
The New York Times: The debate stood out for the intensity and personal nature of the exchanges, as Republicans tried to distinguish themselves a tactic that risked highlighting the unhappiness among conservatives with much of the field.
USA Today adds that the GOP hopefuls clashed Sunday over one of their party's most basic questions: Who is the most conservative? Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee cited their conservative executive experience, while John McCain and Fred Thompson touted conservative Senate voting records and all took shots at the presumed Democratic frontrunner.
The Wall Street Journal: Indeed, much of the debate was devoted to how the candidates would go about defeating Mrs. Clinton, a Democratic presidential candidate who currently holds a commanding lead in national and early voting state polls.
The New York Post calls Clinton the roast of the town.
Fred Thompson stood out to the Politico's Martin: "Thompson, showing a degree of passion unseen in his first debate appearance two weeks ago, offered perhaps the toughest charges of the night."(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...
Whistle and give us a clue where it's located ...
“It’s disgusting that he gets away with it.”
He won’t get away with it much longer, despite the MSM.
You have some pretty intelligent friends
“Hear that?
Crickets.”
That sound is a singular thought banging around the inside of your almost empty head.
LLS
I am a Christian conservative American and I have compromised my values before and held my nose and voted for the RINO who cold win. No more. At some point we have to stop the madness or nothing ever changes. There are those who will debase me for not voting and giving it to Hillary and they keep saying that we can fix it later.
When is later! That mantra has been preached for several elections now and we still have the same old watered down RINO’s getting elected all in the name of “so we don’t lose anything”. It is time to make a stand. I’ll fight her from opposition. We have got to make a change or change never happens. Might it be painful, yes, but nothing worth anything is free.
I’m sorry he didn’t do that interview that you talked about, but Fred does interviews all the time. He has for months. There are most of the time video and audio of these interviews, and links to them are usually posted on the FRead thread or on blogsforfredthompson.com
He does interviews, you have not heard them but that does not mean Fred doesn’t do them. Fred has plenty of exposure. So why are you saying this when it isn’t true? The one I support is the one I check on every day to listen to his interviews.
Don't forget the idiot (Luntz?) questioning the observers. His performance was laughable!
I hope you are right!
They all had a good night, but Fred hit the biggest Home Run at the end.
Pray for W and Our Troops
I am a very conservative individual, as well.
I will not vote for a RINO again. If we end up with Hillary, then the country can fall apart, and we can have a conservative help us out of the radioactive rubble.
IMO, the most curious post was the one where he revealed that he was trying to keep job his law enforcement a secret ...
I've seen the same thing, and it's amazed me. I'm pretty loosy-goosy on the "values" candidate concept -- in my heart, I believe that much of the "values-voter" agenda has zero -- big fat donut-hole -- solution in Government. FREEDOM by way of minimal government, free markets and personal responsibility which would by definition be a society where those who behave stupidly or with evil intent pay the consequences on their or charity's dime, will result in a more moral populace. "Values" voters who push for the government to further their cause are hurting their cause.
Tax-funded abortions, a push to normalize homosexuality, horrific public education, and insane health care costs HAPPENED BECAUSE OF BIG GOVERNMENT. For example, I share this nation with flawed (aren't we all?) humans who are not (yet?) enlightened with regard to abortion, but without Big Government, they have minimal effect on the enlightened.
With Big Government, they have Roe vs. Wade, and with Roe vs. Wade, we have Federally funded abortions where all of us are forced to participate.
The one factor guaranteed to affect change is via government. Shrinking it will shrink everything evil associated with it.
All right paths lead to whatever conservative candidate preaches smaller government. Rudy's past (like Romney's, albeit in a different way), confirms an affable comfort with Government control over We The People. So did Arnold "NEVER Trust an Austrian" Schwarzenegger's, but much like (I suspect) many Rudy supporters, I was willing to suspend disbelief, and voted for him. Alas, he was exactly the Big Government Nanny Stater that down deep I knew he was, and he has done as much damage, and in an insidious way more damage, than Cruz Bustamonte (his opponent) would have done. Rudy is as "Republican" as Arnold.
I really hope Rudy loses the primaries.
Bernie Kerik? ;-)
Rump roast no doubt.
"Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson
No wonder the bible touts the importance of love over pretty much everything else. Wow.
CAMERON: Congressman Hunter?
Some pretty sensitive issues: gay marriage, abortion. And Tom Tancredo with the highest rankings. Is he the right conservative? And are these issues that are -- the Republican Party is in danger of not being conservative enough and losing track and losing connection with its principles?
HUNTER: Well, Carl, you've been dividing the party for the last 10 minutes, so let me -- let me say something that I think unites them.
This is a historic venue. (APPLAUSE)
You know, 300 miles off this coast is a place where another party, once a great party, the Democrat Party, lost its identity. And that's when, in 1961, the Cuban freedom fighters were struggling with a toehold on the beach, trying to take back Cuba from Castro and a Democrat president with an aircraft carrier sitting a few miles offshore said we will not help the freedom fighters.
And a thousand miles away from there is El Salvador, where a Republican president, Ronald Reagan, hung tough, brought freedom to El Salvador.
HUNTER: And you know something? Today, they are fighting side by side with our guys in Iraq. (APPLAUSE)
We're the party of freedom. (APPLAUSE)
CAMERON: I'm not so sure I shouldn't get 30 seconds to rebut as to whether I'm dividing their party...
HUNTER: Thanks for the question, Carl.
Aw..
I wanted to make a comment on your pithy post, but your account is compost...
I thought we did that in 2006. Now we have Pelosi and Reid. Take a look at Bush's stand on immigration or many other issues. Would you rather have had Algore at the helm on 9/11? Or perhaps JFnKerry would have prosecuted the War in Iraq better?
I personally do not wish to serve under Hillary. In fact, the prospect terrifies me far more than war. So if push comes to shove, perhaps you and conscientious conservatives like yourself could keep us in mind. :)
I noticed his last comment isn’t listed. I’ll bet the lightening struck just as he hit the post button and his words turned to ashes before they reached his ‘my comments’ page. Most excellent troll hunting by the mods.
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