Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.
Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"
"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."
I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.
I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.
After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.
What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.
WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?
Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.
I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.
You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.
The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.
Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."
We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.
I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.
I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."
To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.
I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.
Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.
Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."
That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.
I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.
I think McCain or somebody commented that Mrs. Clinton had voted for some stupid funding for a Woodstock museum....
Well, he told Hannity something that he’s denied in public.
I mean, he still says publicly that he favors abortion.
He still favors gun controls.
He still favors “nicey-nice” with illegals.
I just don’t get it.
Giuliani is a LIBERAL.
Hannity’s either incredibly buffaloed or he is lying.
I saw “some” of it last night and I was more proud of you all in the focus group than the candidates themselves and they looked pretty good last. I should have KNOWN on of ya had to be a FReeper!!!! Great job!
Jim - take note! - you ARE producing great conservative spokesman from the FReeper Acadamy of Conservativism. Well done!
PS to MFH - I have to laugh at your screen name, for the last month or so I have had a sinus headache and I had noticed at last night’s debate my pain was gone and I could enjoy the debate. I will remember you. LOL
You know, after seeing Ron Paul last night. I think I just might vote for him...
HA! JUST KIDDING! YOU FOLKS JUST GOT PUNKED!
Excellent!
Just as a side note - wasn’t hillary trying to get the woodstock site funding for some kind of monument......anyone know about that - I only caught a part of it and wanted to hear more.
Great Job!
You did a great job!!! You came across very well.
Luntz said "Relax I was only joking."
Only joking seems to be the standard reply when someone gets confronted by conservatives for hate speech.
Like saying "I was only joking for using the "N" word."
He should have been told that when you say things that Democrats/Liberals/Socialists don't like, you get fired, smeared and sent to re-education camps.
You did a great job. I always thought you were female because of your name,duh. My complaint with what I saw of Luntz was not including illegal immigration...I heard a lady say that and he ignored it. That is my issue because I feel any Repub that would make president would be good on terrorism.
Rudy did a good job, I was for him before I heard him talk about illegals a year ago. In 2004 my daughters UF friends talked about how they would vote Rudy before Hiliary (libs). Fortunately my DD is conservative,but more liberal like Rudy.Anyway I think lots of dems would vote Rudy. I want Mitt myself, but am Tancredo and Hunter fans. You did good!
WELL IT AIN’T GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!
The people on this board need to realize that Romney has changed his mind, Thompson has changed his mind, McCaine has changed his mind, Ron Paul does not have a mind, President Bush has changed his mind, President GHW Bush changed his mind, Ronald Reagan changed his mind,Barry Goldwater changed his mind.
The reason for this is that a politician has two jobs ...to get elected and to govern.
Huck seems worse than Bush on immigration. He dodged that when questioned last night.
Thanks.
I thought Luntz was in shock when all the hands went up saying hillary was a socialist.
Wallace said there is a Fox News Dynamics poll (yes that joke poll) which has hillary winning in a land slide.
Do you know what the group reaction was when Thompson directly said Giuliani is exactly like Hillary?
It seemed to me that Giuliani was defensive and dancing all night to avoid the fact his views are identical to hillary clinton. “You have got to be kidding” remark made me think he doth protest too much.
All the Fruitless Five need to go.
NOt that I’m agreeing or disagreeing but I felt like he was pushing Thompson.
It’s 2007, not 1986, and ALL should have learned that amnesty was a great big come on down sign. Can’t be done again.
Agree with you. I will vote for any Republican, even Rudy. I can even get enthusiastic for Rudy against Hiliary. But you hit it out of the park when you brought up the issue of the MSM. WHO is going to take them on? As you say, Bush has been unable to do it. Maybe unwilling because the family is, after all, establishment. The old man’s crazy dance with Bill Clinton bewilders me. What the hell is going on?
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