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My Night At The Orlando Fox News Presidential Debate
Myself | 10-22-2007 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/21/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

I am going to post just a small review of my night with 23 Republicans at the Fox News Orlando Republican Presidential Debate.

Luntz was angry early on before camera's went live when he polled the group to make sure everyone there was undecided. A 21 yr old guy raised his hand and said he was supporting Ron Paul. Luntz absolutely lost it on this kid and said "Why in the hell did you not put that on your questionaire that was e-mailed to you? Why does it not shock me that a Ron Paul supporter would pull this kind of crap?"

"If someone else shows up you are being replaced and out of here...this room is for undecided."

I was originally placed in the second row towards the end of the row next to a man named Fred Hawkins Jr. who is running for Osceola County Commissioner. Luntz asked us a bunch of questions with a camera crew and producers in tow behind him and I was the first to answer. I was the first person to use the word "socialism" and it spread like wild fire.

I said the concept of America voting a socialist like Hillary Clinton as President should be motivation enough for Republicans to get their act together. I reminded Luntz of the Hillary quote saying "This is the same woman who is quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle saying "We will have to take things away for the common good." Luntz had this smirk on his face and he knew I handed him gold.

After 3 segments it was time to go live. By the time you saw what you did at home we had already gone through 3 rounds of questions and I was lighting up the joint with what I call the biggest crisis this campaign.

What do any of these men who are running for President plan on doing to combat the extreme hatred of anyone who is a Republican by the mainstream media and how bad the liberal blogs, Soros, and just about everyone who has some sort of journalistic power slimes Republicans on a daily basis. Who is going to have the spine to stand up to it and how do they plan on doing it when the Bush Administration has been knocked out time and time again with no fight.

WHO IS GOING TO PREVENT THE PERCEPTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT WAR MONGERING NAZI'S WHO ARE OUT FOR OIL COMPANIES AND THE RICH?

Luntz definitely told us through his polling and research that as of today Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. He was putting all of his money on her. I said you are going to go broke. He said Republicans are too disorganized and the focus group proved that.

I said not it does not. I said if you want to see motivation and organization? Put Hillary Clinton against any Republican and you will see Republicans vote like you have never seen before, the alternative is too grave. Whether we can stand it or not Republicans will do everything in their power to elect anyone else but Clinton.

You saw my exchange later on saying we have long memories and do not want to live through that hell again.

The Ron Paul comment I made was simple and sweet and every single person except the Ron Paul supporter all said "perfect" with regards to that remark.

Luntz walks over and says "you are good...you are going down to the front row...keep talking."

We taped about 70 mins worth of discussion. More clips will be aired at 6:20 AM on Fox and Friends First and then 8:20 AM on Fox and Friends. Then more clips from the debate will be aired on tomorrow's Hannity and Colmes as well from 9-10.

I am sure this is when you will see how hardcore it got in there.

I called out the room at the end of it all..when I saw how many people put their hands up that Rudy was the only one who could beat Hillary I said "I am really saddened to see how many people think he is their answer. That is very telling that the fire that was there earlier tonight for all of us agreeing that we want a true Conservative is gone already and that makes me sick as a true Conservative."

To me the top winners tonight were Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and blech...I hate to say this but Rudy. His night was not that bad but he certainly is not my top choice for President.

I called for a thining of the herd. Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter need to go. They virtually played zero in the room. It was sad because I really like Tom and Duncan and said that if a Republican wins the White House in 2008 they should all be given cabinet posts ASAP.

Except Paul...which who by the end of the night lost his one supporter...the 21 yr old guy who didn't raise his hand when asked if anyone supported him.

Finally...Luntz. A nice guy but can be insulting. When he compared a moderate conservative to a major serious conservative he wanted a show of hands...then he added "When I say major serious conservative I mean you can hear the German Nazi marching bands and get excited", I then said to him "There it is..exactly what I was talking about." Luntz said "Relax I was only joking." I said "I know you were and it is that kind of talk that I am absolutely disgusted by and sick of...sick of it Frank...enough is enough with the nazi conservative comparisons people have got to speak up for conservatives...true conservatives."

That in a short capsule is it. Met some really nice people and we had a discussion at the end of everything and went our own ways.

I thank Luntz for letting me say whatever I wanted to on camera and speak up for Conservatives and letting me call Ron Paul out on global television.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aar; debate; elections; foxnews; gop; gopdebates; orlando; ronpaul
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To: My Favorite Headache

I suppose from that perspective it makes sense...somewhat.


261 posted on 10/22/2007 11:28:08 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: griswold3

I think there is a split in the family.


262 posted on 10/22/2007 11:34:15 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: DoughtyOne
Trust me, I read it all. I read it again and came to the same conclusion. Furthermore, I think George W. Bush has been one of the best presidents our nation has ever had and I thank God everyday that he was president when our nation was attacked. He is not perfect....no one is perfect. I hope you can get through your “holier than thou” attitude and come down to earth with the rest of us before our nation is lost to socialism forever.
263 posted on 10/22/2007 11:36:39 AM PDT by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: DoughtyOne
The other day someone posted some of his past comments and it was a real eye opener for me.
I don’t know if he’s had his Romney moment or what, but this doesn’t strike me as consistant on the subject.

IIRC, Ronald Reagan was a Dem early on .... and we know where he ended up.
264 posted on 10/22/2007 11:41:14 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mtnwmn

Like I’ve said to others, I’m not going to try to force my opinions on them or you.

If you see it different than I do, that’s okay.

I appreciate your comments.


265 posted on 10/22/2007 11:41:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I watched the pre-show. I had a feeling that was you. I think you said Hillary was a ‘’Communist socialist’’, or a ‘’socialist-communist’’,,,,,,,either way you were so right on!,,,,,It was great.,,,. Also it was fantastic that someone finally brought up the day in ,day out constant demonizing of Republicans. Its non stop and I am sick of to death of it as well.Someone needs to combat the RATS lies that we throw old lady's down stairs and drag minority's from cars. It’s disgusting and vicious and the RATS always seem to ramp up their hateful rhetoric around election time. I think the candidates must have heard you too cause they all seem to have stepped up last night. Thanks again, you were great!
266 posted on 10/22/2007 11:45:05 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA (Don't tread on the Fred! ''Fred Thompson 2008!'')
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To: oh8eleven

That is true. That process took a considerable amount of time to become complete though. I’m not real confortable with a guy making one series of comments and then a few years later professing a diametrically opposed position.


267 posted on 10/22/2007 11:48:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: tioga

Hillary is looking to make a political payoff. The million dollars of taxpayer money is for a Woodstock museum.

It’s for the children. You can’t say no.

It was a home run citation to slam her to smithereens. And someone on McCain’s staff wrote him a good line on it.


268 posted on 10/22/2007 11:50:02 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: xsmommy

Some folks will never understand. You can disagree with Rudy on issues such as abortion, immigration, etc. but you will probably not understand that Rudy almost singlehandedly destroyed the liberal power base in NYC across the board.

From the NY Slimes to the mob unions to the teachers to the one party socialist politicians. And they hate his guts for it.


269 posted on 10/22/2007 11:54:31 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m not real confortable with a guy making one series of comments and then a few years later professing a diametrically opposed position.
Me neither, but Huckabee seems to have seen the light, and in my eyes, appears to possess more Conservative values than any of the other candidates.
270 posted on 10/22/2007 11:59:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Bush gal in LA

Thanks!


271 posted on 10/22/2007 12:10:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

That was neat you had this chance to be part of a great debate . Look, Rudy , according now to Fox and Ras. can indeed beat the Hildabeast. The poll was just released. I thought John , Mike , Mitt, and even Fred did a good job but Rudy was far more witty, concise and strong. That will mean things to real primary voters not just Freepers or forum bloggers. I know one thing, Mike should be the GOP VP choice and Duncan should be Secdef or Secstate.


272 posted on 10/22/2007 12:11:13 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: My Favorite Headache
Thank you for your response. I do totally disagree with the direction the party seems to be going, and especially the media, including FNS. I strongly feel there is a movement to cast aside conservatives.

The ONLY news media candidate choice I will even consider voting for, is Thompson. And then I think he would increase his chances were he to ask Hunter run as VP. IF Hunter were to not get the nomination.

I think it is a sad commentary on our Nation, that the best candidates are ignored, and the money is all that talks. That and polls. The thing about the money part, it is like buying the office, and that is wrong on so many levels. It also says only the rich can run for office. Polls, who here has EVER been polled on these issues? The take small numbers and assume it means a representation of that district, state, or whatever. And it doesn’t. If polls were an accurate reading Kerry would be our President.

273 posted on 10/22/2007 12:11:24 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: visualops

Yep. We all said the same thing last night. I am very interested to see what Luntz will be airing from last night on Hannity and Colmes tonight.


274 posted on 10/22/2007 12:11:24 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: gidget7

Hillary is out and out bribing people for votes. Saying all kids born will get bank accounts with what was it? 5k? 10K? To use when they turn 18? It will gain interest etc...who in the hell is going to pay for that?!?!


275 posted on 10/22/2007 12:13:07 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: phillyfanatic

Not me.

My Favorite Headache got to participate.

I haven’t even watched it.


276 posted on 10/22/2007 12:13:22 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. -- Sherman)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s okay. We can’t all see it the same way. I appreciate your comments.


277 posted on 10/22/2007 12:16:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: Spiff

Perchance you missed my drift?


278 posted on 10/22/2007 12:19:44 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Spiff

Perchance you missed my drift?


279 posted on 10/22/2007 12:20:54 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

and I apparently missed the < enter > key!!


280 posted on 10/22/2007 12:21:59 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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