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Five disqualifying issues for political office [Giuliani is DISQUALIFIED on each and every one]
CpForLife.org ^ | 10-21-07 | CpForLife.org

Posted on 10/21/2007 1:16:26 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

“A disqualifying issue is one which is of such gravity and importance that it allows for no political maneuvering. It is an issue that strikes at the heart of the human person and is non-negotiable. A disqualifying issue is one of such enormity that by itself renders a candidate for office unacceptable regardless of his position on other matters.” [1]

FIVE such disqualifying issues are:
· Abortion
· Euthanasia
· Embryonic/Fetal Stem Cell Research
· Human Cloning
· “homosexual marriage”

Rudolph Giuliani has disqualified himself on each and every one of the five.

Giuliani has further disqualified himself in that he is Anti-Second Amendment. The Right to keep and bear arms is truly the right which protects all other Rights against tyranny. Every dictator throughout history has proved this true beyond all doubt.

It is therefore of paramount importance that Rudolph Giuliani be defeated in the primaries.

[1] http://www.ewtn.com/vote/brief_catechism.htm


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; prolife; rudy
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To: cpforlife.org
"It is therefore of paramount importance that Rudolph Giuliani be defeated in the primaries."

Absolutely. The day abortion, gay rights, gun control, sanctuary cites, etc, become accepted by Republicans is the day the Republican party ceases to exist as a viable party.

61 posted on 10/21/2007 4:10:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: savedbygrace; All
"No, the choice is not between Giuliani and Clinton.

"Your set up is a False Choice."

In the first place, we don't know that Giuliani will be chosen as the Republican candidate. We are almost certain that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee and with that in mind, I will make no choice that might end up seating a person whom I regard as a despot in the White House.

Dr. Dobson is a fine man. He doesn't realize, however, that this country is not a theocracy. What he and his followers will end up doing, if not very careful, is bringing great angst and tribulation on this nation.

"You people" need to get over the notion that you are going to field a candidate who will be elected and deny the Presidency to Hillary and Giuliani. Ain't going to happen, however principled you think the effort might be.

My very last comment to you and yours is, "Grow up!!"

62 posted on 10/21/2007 4:14:50 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: davisfh

I guess I missed it. Who brought Dr. Dobson into this?


63 posted on 10/21/2007 4:26:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: davisfh

You have it totally wrong.

If McDonalds stopped selling hamburgers, and sold veggie-burgers instead, would you blame consumers if McDonalds’ sales plummeted? “Well, if they’d only try those veggie-burgers, they’d find they aren’t that bad.” Yuck!

We want meat and we won’t buy veggie-burgers. And it’s not our fault.


64 posted on 10/21/2007 4:39:17 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: basil
Whoever the Republican candidate is, we must vote for him. To not vote or vote 3rd party is a vote for Hillary, IMHO.

That dog don't hunt. Rudy will destroy the Republican Party and take down the US with it. Look at what Arnold has accomplished.

65 posted on 10/21/2007 5:00:15 PM PDT by packrat35 (Politicians would be less worthless if they were edible, or useable for packing wheel bearings.)
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To: TigersEye

I did because I know that he is the genesis of this type thinking.


66 posted on 10/21/2007 5:03:42 PM PDT by davisfh
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67 posted on 10/21/2007 5:04:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: davisfh

That sounds rather childish. How do you figure that?


68 posted on 10/21/2007 5:08:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: cpforlife.org

If Rudy is the Republican nominee, I will probably vote for him. Make up all the lists you want that are good for you. My list is short— can the candidate defeat the democratic nominee who would fail every question on your silly test and about 110 more.


69 posted on 10/21/2007 5:08:40 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: packrat35
Now--please tell me how Rudy-toot will be worse for us than Hillary or Obama? I'm all ears!

However, I'm going to make some predictions that at the moment might sound crazy---but I think John Edwards will end up as the dim candidate, and I further think that Fred will end up with the pubbie candidacy. I further predict that the pubbies will get substantial majorities in both house.

You heard it here first--LOL!

70 posted on 10/21/2007 5:09:46 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: davisfh
Well, how does Hillary stack-up on these issues? Given the choice between Hillary and Guiliani, please make a recommendation as to which one I might vote for.

1. Rudy is now trailing Fred, so that match up is no longer as likely as it once seemed. Despite the dinosaur media's relentless attempt to make that happen.

2. In that event, I would vote for any candidate that supported a biblical and constitutionally sound platform.

This nation will someday pass away. My soul is eternal. Someday I will stand before God and be judged. My obedience to and relationship with God will be an issue. What candidate won the United States presidency will not. The prophets Jeremiah and Isaiah were put into a situation where Israel was facing dissolution due to corrupt government, national sin, and invading enemies. God has not changed, and he still expects us to be obedient to him during times of national travail.

If things get bad you might consider these words:

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

While the list of grievances following might be somewhat different, the principle is timeless.

71 posted on 10/21/2007 5:29:53 PM PDT by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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To: basil

Look to CA, the blame goes to the top Arnold, who calls himself a Republican. Same with Rudy, if elected.

When Bill Clinton was elected with a democrat congress, 2 years later, the Republicans retook Congress. All blame went to them.


72 posted on 10/21/2007 5:39:37 PM PDT by packrat35 (Politicians would be less worthless if they were edible, or useable for packing wheel bearings.)
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To: TigersEye

[Actually living one’s values sometimes requires sacrifice. ]

Not when the sacrifice ensures the very outcome you want to prevent with the possibility that doing so will avoid it.


73 posted on 10/21/2007 6:43:52 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: cpforlife.org; burzum

You just made a simple mistake. You should have used a word or term like “ill-suited” instead of “disqualified”. Unsuited is a subjective evaluation of a person, whereas disqualified is an objective reading of the Constitutional definition.

Words have meaning; we should use them intelligently and wisely.


74 posted on 10/21/2007 6:55:04 PM PDT by noname07718 (The Senate is based on consensus. “Consensus is the absence of leadership” - Lady M.Thatcher)
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To: TigersEye
I believe that it was on Sean Hannity's "Hannity's America" show last Sunday, October 14th that Hannity question Dr. Dobson concerning his declaration that he and Fundamentalist Christians would not vote for a candidate that did not fit the Fundamentalist mold. Sean tried to warn him of the effect that this approach might have on the Presidential Election's outcome. Dobson's answer amounted to "Oh yes, we know, but we're going to do it anyway." Just paraphrasing here, you understand.

If anything is childish, the things that Dobson had to say are childish and, if carried out, could potentially set the nation back to the Carter years.

I hereby declare that I will support whichever candidate is selected by the Republican Party. Were I to vote for a third party candidate (presumably a Fundamentalist Christian), one might expect to see people ice-skating in Hell with pigs flying overhead.

Dr. Dobson has the potential to become another Ross Perot if he carries out the intent that he declared to Sean Hannity.

75 posted on 10/21/2007 7:00:23 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: MrEdd
I'm familiar with all of these words, so you can just can all of this tautology.

"This nation will someday pass away."

I declare that I will do nothing to accelerate its passage even if it means voting for a "Republican" candidate who does not meet my measure concerning abortion and other things that you people on the religious right are hung-up on. END OF DISCUSSION.

76 posted on 10/21/2007 7:04:32 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: TigersEye
"So, between Hillary and Rudy the question is "do you want a socialist President who faces opposition in Congress or do you want a socialist President who has bipartisan support?"

Exactly right. And that is why, if it came down to Rudy versus Hillary, Hillary would actually be the better choice.

Now please excuse me while I go shower. Uttering that horrible but true little factoid has left me feeling dirty...
77 posted on 10/21/2007 7:19:32 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well...)
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To: Petronski

Newt put it best. He said that the 2nd amendment doesn’t have any meaning unless it applies to Americans everywhere - whether they are in rural Idaho or DC/NYC. Just like the first amendment.


78 posted on 10/21/2007 7:26:58 PM PDT by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: EasySt
Uttering that horrible but true little factoid has left me feeling dirty...

It should.

79 posted on 10/21/2007 7:30:54 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: cpforlife.org

What I’ll never forget is friends I know said that Guiliani lived in a house with two homosexual lovers while he was waiting for his divorce to go through. It makes me question his true values if he is literally willing to not only condone that unhealthy lifestyle but live in a homosexual household day and night. If you are a decent person and let’s say you move in with two crack addicts or two thieves. Your own integrity should immediately create conflict with those who are immoral. Yet Guiliani apparently embraces these people and their lifestyle. That’s one reason I don’t trust Guiliani at all.


80 posted on 10/21/2007 7:38:51 PM PDT by RedBloodedPatriot
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