Posted on 10/14/2007 4:35:45 AM PDT by Calpernia
BREAKING NEWS! Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has won the inaugural Conservative Leadership Conference straw poll. Despite not appearing at the conference, Paul won convincingly with 33% of the vote. Mitt Romney, who addressed the conference in a town hall meeting and during a general session, finished second with 16%. Duncan Hunter, who also delivered a major address during the three-day event, finished third at 15%.
The Full Results:
Ron Paul 32.80%
Mitt Romney 16.13%
Duncan Hunter 14.52%
Undecided 11.29%
Fred Thompson 7.53%
Rudy Giuliani 6.45%
Alan Keyes 3.76%
Mike Huckabee 3.23%
Tom Tancredo 1.61%
John McCain 1.08%
Other 1.08%
Sam Brownback 0.54%
FALSE!
Romney came in 2nd!
I gave you ONE Fairy Tale, and 8 "Real World" situations regarding short sited forgein policy...
care to address those?
or the fact that your so called 'pragmatic' approach to forgein policy, always seems to bite us in the ass in the end ...
I think another poster was correct in saying that libertarian views were grossly overrepresented, relative to the conservative movement as a whole.
These wings of the party are married to each other and the GOP can not survive without this marriage. Both the libertarian GOP and the social conservative GOP need each other.
While I’m not seeing “focus on the family” type stuff in this, the Heritage Foundation is a very socially conservative PAC.
Regardless, Dr. Paul is a Christian, who as a medical doctor has delivered over 4000 babies and is very pro-life. He has been married to the same woman for 50 years. He is a VERY socially conservative candidate.
"hindsight is 20/20" is a poor excuse when things are foreseeable... bringing to mind the adage of "those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it".
or maybe even more appropriate in the words of Ben Franklin - "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
It was foreseeable knowing the history of Islamic Jihad that supporting the Mujahadeen would create the Taliban... It was foreseeable that getting into bed with Saddam, would create the situation we are currently in ...
The entire "Enemy of my Enemy" foreign policy strategy has been a disaster throughout history
You're right, they absolutely do need each other, but it's a shaky marriage, and near divorce these days. There are candidates who today who encompass both traditions, as did Reagan. I don't think Paul is one of them.
The trouble with libertarians is that many of them think that everything will be fine in the world if we follow economists like von Mises at home, and if we withdraw from the world internationally. The U.S. is declining for many reasons, but materialistic economic policies and limited government alone will not save us. Our culture must be revived and preserved, and immigration by unfriendly elements must be stopped.
No, I wasn’t on that thread.
I concur with everything you’ve posted. Except for the assumption that Ron Paul is an isolationist.
Good God, I can’t wait for Ron Paul to go away. The
liberals will be sad and it will feel like Christmas.
Same as the ones you've lost. See FOX News judicial expert Andrew Napolitano's speech to the Future Freedom Foundation.
Neither is Ron Paul. By the way, how many countries did Reagan invade? The only one I count is Grenada, to rescue some trapped medical students. And we were there about a week. So Reagan, in your book, was an "isolationist," I guess, because he didn't needlessly invade other countries. He won the cold war without invading Russia - just like we were beating Saddam with sanctions and had no need to launch a distrastrous invasion.
You might have to wait a long time. When he starts losing straw polls and caucuses, then we can talk - but I think he's won more than any other GOP candidate so far, hasn't he?
The Paulies were in great force there and annoying to say the least. I really think the poll was not moderated as well as it could’ve been. To be a more concise poll, they should’ve separated the votes based upon your party affiliation. If you were libertarian, they should’ve have tallied those votes separately and did the same for independents and republicans.
So...yes, this conference was one of those that was not quite what most would consider “conservative”. However, I feel that there are a lot of libertarians that relate more to the conservative movement. There was quite a mix of people there and if you look at what was taught at the convention, you could see why it gathered such a diverse group of people. The organizers of the conference stated that it was a libertarian-leaning conference. That means that most of those folks throw their hat to Ron Paul.
It’s not big news for Ron Paul even though you may perceive it that way. As I mentioned, if Ron Paul hadn’t won the straw poll, there would’ve been something wrong with the makeup of the conference. Ron Paul did have a booth set up at the conference and they cluttered up the hallways with their signs everywhere. It was quite bothersome.
I do not think that Robespierre is a conservarive ideal.
There's nothing I want to do that I have lost the right to do. What rights have you lost for doing things you want to do?
The searing truth about God-given rights is that we are not at liberty to give them up for one another.
Robespierre was a lawless man. Ron Paul is the one demanding that the law be upheld. It is our current leaders who refuse to obey the laws. The Constitution is supreme over the land, It must be amended to conduct activities it forbids. Yet from the first amendment to leaving our borders wide open, the current government has no intention of upholding the law.
The responsibility for the destruction of our country is firmly on the shoulders of the lawless in power. It is not too late to change course and restore the Constitution. If we do not, our Republic will collapse like so many others before it on the ash heap of history.
Robespierre was a lawyer, man.
Is that what the Grateful Dead called themselves after Jerry Garcia died?
The Globalist Machine rhythm and blues band, tonight only..
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