Posted on 10/13/2007 9:43:32 PM PDT by goldstategop
Well, when you've got a headache, you take an aspirin. When you've got the flu, you take something a little stronger. When you've got cancer, you need chemotherapy, which kills cancer cells but can come perilously close to killing the patient. It's a sad truth, but the Republican Party has the political equivalent of cancer. The party is immune from internal reform. Only the nastiest medicine imaginable can save it, and four (but probably eight) years of Clinton, backed by a Democratic congressional majority, is pretty tough medicine.
Columnist Joe Dumas, writing for the Chattanoogan.com, captured the party's problem succinctly: "It should come as no big revelation to anyone inside or outside of the Republican Party that the GOP has lost touch with its conservative roots. Massive deficit spending that would make Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter blush; foreign adventurism beyond the wildest dreams of Woodrow Wilson or Teddy Roosevelt; more big-government programs than FDR or LBJ (Google 'Medicare expansion' for a massive example) ... the Republican Party of the early 21st century is clearly not your father's or grandfather's GOP."
Yet the party's leaders, and a good bit of the grass roots, are in denial. They still think the candidate who can best imitate Ronald Reagan's speech-making (Mitt Romney), or who has the best celebrity credentials (Fred Thompson), or who can best exploit national security issues and 9/11 (Rudy Giuliani) can stop the Hillary Express. But the problem goes well beyond superficial concerns. The GOP has a substance problem none of the major candidates has the right ideas.
(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...
After 70 years of Liberals running the Supreme Court the Conservatives are ONE seat away from taking back control of arguable the most influential portion of the Fed Govt. So now the moronic wing of the Conservative Movement, in the last 100 years of that Marathon of struggle, want to sit down and throw a temper-tantrum because the finish line isn’t their personal favorite shade of red!
Idiotic. 70% of something is way better then 100% of nothing. Adult minds understand that, children throw tempertarums about it.
On Judges alone the GOP has in the last 7 years done far MORE good for the future of the Conservative movement then all the pathetic posturing by Media Conservatives has, or ever will, do.
Wonder what this purist would of wrote about a President that signed 6 tax hikes? A Real Illegal Alien Amnesty? Double Federal Spending in 8 years? Spent record Deficits? Ran away from a Muslim Terrorist threat? Appointed a Liberal to the Supreme Court? Played diplomatic footsie with the Mullahs of Iran?
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That President was Ronald Reagan.
Nothing in life is ever perfect. Not even the greatest US President of the 20th century Ronald Maximus Reagan. This instance on tilting at political windmills by the Purists is the behavior of petulant children, not rational adults minds.
The real life Reagan would of never been able to compete with the mythical Reagan that has been manufactured by Talk Radio since he left office. Perfection can be found in God, and no where else. It certainly is not to be found in politics.
In real life, and in politics, one is continually forced to take the good with the bad. Only in recent years has this dogma of perfect Conservative reared it ugly ignorant head. There is no such thing.
The best you can hope for is at least 51% of the time they move in the direction you want them to go. The GOP does that for Conservatives. Hillary and the Leftist move the ball 100% AGAINST the Conservative agenda. It would be pure idiocy for anyone to think Hillary would in any way help the Conservatives.
On Judges alone the GOP has done more good for the Conservative Movements future then all the whining from the Purists with their arrogance ignorance of how a Constitutional Republic work ever will.
Elections are won by those who can best harness a coalition of interests, not the one who demagogues the purist dogmas best. No one who can win in politics is ever going to measure up to this dogmatic demand for perfection. Not even Reagan could have.
Most libertarians vote Republican. There are a lot more out there than you think. Most dont even know the term ‘libertarian’ — they just want government out of their wallet and out of their lives. Social issues should be handled at the state level anyway. Things like Roe Vs Wade is a serious abomination on our Constitution and States’ rights.
I do agree that the Supreme Court & Courts in general is probably the most important part of the election. Every time I hear some retarded ruling based on feeling it is almost always a Clinton appointtee. Of course, if someone like Guiliani gets the Republican nominee, I’m not sure we’d have conservative judges. I could probably hold my nose and vote for any other Republican (assuming Hillary wins the D nom)
That's also surrender monkey talk.
Dumping Giuliani is fine, IF you retain his 30+% of GOP primary voters. If you don't, the party's over.
The Giuliani voters have been receiving incredible flak and aren't shooting back (or else they get zapped). However, this is a huge voting bloc in the party, if not a huge FReeping block.
We hear over and over again that the GOP cannot win without, is doomed without, etc, etc, etc the socon faction. Fine.
But Rudy is leading or second in every GOP primary voter poll. Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are under 5% everywhere.
Do without Rudy? Of course.
Do without the Rudy voter? Impossible.
After Rudy is dumped in the way you would have him dumped, how can you possibly imagine the remnant of the GOP can assemble a national majority?
I totally agree. Get him out of the race and all this angst goes away.
He is the problem and will cause a defeat.
It makes no sense to run a candidate that too many oppose.
I wonder if three failed marriages would make Rush Limbaugh an unacceptable presidential candidate?
Yeah, that'll work.
Look at California.
“Social issues should be handled at the state level anyway. Things like Roe Vs Wade is a serious abomination on our Constitution and States rights.”
Precisely.
Putting your hands over your ears and screaming “no-no-no-no” every time anyone around here points out how a Constitutional Republic works does NOT magically change Paulbot idiocy to wisdom.
You may whine about it all you like, it ain't gonna happen.
If the Pubbies want the base to vote, they should only allow candidates that actually stand for the things the base expects them to stand for.
OMG! We'll lose the RINO vote! What ever shall we do?
There is absolutely no way that his 30% polling translates into the general vote. If Rudy is the candidate the Republicans will lose. period. end of story. He will not win in any but a tiny few of the red states. If you think he can turn blue states red, you may have some sort of chemically induced delirium.
I’m not a Paulbot. Your ad hominem attacks are pretty funny though. Your post tactics are similar to the style that liberal use: Slander, name calling, and exaggerations.
The strategy that worked so well in 2006 so why not do it again theory?
I am curious. Do the “Always Pouting” around here actively work for the Democrat Party or are they just so politically ignorant they don’t realize that is the logical result they achieve with their pathetic daily whining? Don’t they realize that they are acting, knowingly or unknowingly, as PR agents for the Democrat party?
So which is it? Political fools or political frauds?
I will say it again, only this time I'll type real slow so you can understand:
If you want the base to vote, give them candidates to vote FOR.
See? It's not so hard.
“8 years of President Hillary could cure the GOP....”
Mash here....
http://alamo-girl.com/0463.htm
There WON’T BE ANY opposition to speak of after the first 2 YEARS of a Hillary presidency...much less two terms....
Greenhut: “8 years of President Hillary could cure the GOP.”
facedown: “And kill the country.”
In that case, let the GOP die. The price is too high. In fact, if the conservative movement at large thinks that a term or two of any of the current Democrat field (or even Al Gore if he drops in), and Hillary in particular, is an acceptable price to pay to pave their way back to power, then frankly, the conservative movement can die on the side of the road, as far as I’m concerned.
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