Chemo For GOP: President Hillary (GOP Needs Complete Cleansing - Patient Is Sick Alert)

Orange County Register ^ | 10/13/2007 | Steven Greenhut

[goldstategop]

Well, when you've got a headache, you take an aspirin. When you've got the flu, you take something a little stronger. When you've got cancer, you need chemotherapy, which kills cancer cells but can come perilously close to killing the patient. It's a sad truth, but the Republican Party has the political equivalent of cancer. The party is immune from internal reform. Only the nastiest medicine imaginable can save it, and four (but probably eight) years of Clinton, backed by a Democratic congressional majority, is pretty tough medicine.

Columnist Joe Dumas, writing for the Chattanoogan.com, captured the party's problem succinctly: "It should come as no big revelation to anyone inside or outside of the Republican Party that the GOP has lost touch with its conservative roots. Massive deficit spending that would make Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter blush; foreign adventurism beyond the wildest dreams of Woodrow Wilson or Teddy Roosevelt; more big-government programs than FDR or LBJ (Google 'Medicare expansion' for a massive example) ... the Republican Party of the early 21st century is clearly not your father's or grandfather's GOP."

Yet the party's leaders, and a good bit of the grass roots, are in denial. They still think the candidate who can best imitate Ronald Reagan's speech-making (Mitt Romney), or who has the best celebrity credentials (Fred Thompson), or who can best exploit national security issues and 9/11 (Rudy Giuliani) can stop the Hillary Express. But the problem goes well beyond superficial concerns. The GOP has a substance problem – none of the major candidates has the right ideas.

[Always A Marine]

It [GOP] needs to give Americans a reason to vote FOR it. Not just vote AGAINST the Democrats.

Well said. We should have learned this lesson when we put BobDole up against Clinton in hopes that revulsion of Slick would win the day. It didn't. It seems like each time the GOP has had an opportunity to offer a clear distinction, we've trotted out a slightly less-bad version of the Democrat opponent. From Nixon through the Bushes, the lone exception was Ronald Reagan.

[goldstategop]

I want a party that promotes life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That's one positive reason to vote Republican. Gosh - we spent so much time attacking Hillary and the Democrats we lose sight of the things we should be for and that we need to convince our fellow citizens are vital to our nation's future. I invite fellow Freepers to supply additional positive reasons to be conservative. If no one can do that, we will get everything that you rightly dread and the rest of us fear.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[devolve]

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“Only Ron Paul can save us from certain disaster”

Keep repeating that with the DUers and 911 Truthers

“No war is ever neccessary”

Keep repeating that with Osama bin Laden and Cindy Sheehan

“We are doomed”

Keep repeating that into a mirror

[goldstategop]

Less government, leave us alone, and allow us to enjoy the fruits of our work. Now there's an idea we should pursue. The Democrats are for the exact opposite: government dependence, telling us what to do and how to raise our children and confiscating our income for the common good.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Old Sarge]

GOP Needs Complete Cleansing Absolution - Patient Is Sick Terminally Ill Alert)

There, fixed it.

[VR-21]

If our country throws itself into the socialist abyss, I seriously doubt we will ever find our way back.

The first thing those people will do is make sure that they are never out of power again.

[roamer_1]

I invite fellow Freepers to supply additional positive reasons to be conservative.

I could supply a long list of why one should be a Conservative, but that is different than being a Republican... A vast difference, or so it seems.

[goldstategop]

They're already doing just that. They don't intend to let go of their power now. We're already at the point where we're seriously contemplating the abandonment of America as we've known it for two centuries. Right now, no one seems prepared to show us a way to keep the country we all love.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

You nailed it. That's why the GOP is terminally ill. It does not exist in much of the country. The Northeast and California are already Democrat one party fiefdoms.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[paudio]

This “it’s better to lose now” attitude before even a vote is cast is what the GOP suffers from.

[goldstategop]

The liberal wing of the GOP is nearly extinct. Rebuilding a conservative party in the Northeast and California is a tall order. We have little to compete with while the Democrats have the schools, media and issue groups to indoctrinate a new generation of Democrat voters. That's what we are up against.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[jwh_Denver]

“Dump Guiliani and the party unites.”

Ever since the Rudy crowd got pitched from FR there has been no uniting that I can see. In fact this place has become a political cat fight on threads about the candidates.

[L.N. Smithee]

Steven Greenhut makes the case its time to roll up our sleeves and get the GOP back to its small government philosophical roots.

He did nothing of the sort. His lame-brained pseudoanalysis of the situation at hand goes no more thoughtful than his Hillary as Chemo metaphor. He pumps Ron Paul as "the only supporter of liberty in the bunch." And while Greenhut does reference another columnist's bemoaning of the Bush White House and GOP Congress' abandoning of fiscal conservatism, he spent more of his own words providing details about Rudy Giuliani's failed marriages.

The thing that reveals that Greenhut is either intellectually dishonest or just plain feeble-minded is that he writes himself in a circle as he wraps up his rant. Of Rudy, he wrote: "What the media call Giuliani's "unconventional" personal life certainly contradicts the party's support for family values." So one would think "family values" was important to him, and one aspect of the GOP he would want to hold on to, right? WRONG! Here are the third and second-last sentences in the column:

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Even the party's social conservative wing, its most powerful grass-roots force, is ready to bolt if socially liberal Giuliani gets the nomination. Religious Right notables such as Focus on the Family's James Dobson and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer met recently in Salt Lake City to discuss backing a third-party candidate. These folks are no friends of liberty, either. Still, their defection could assure that increasingly likely Clinton victory.

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So Rudy's lack of "family values" are an important enough reason to reject him, says Greenhut, but the people who would are 'enemies of liberty' too! They're only useful when it comes to getting Hillary in to issue a near-fatal wound to the Republicans.

Greenhut offers no ideas on how the GOP could be rebuilt, how long that would take, and doesn't factor in what could happen in the meantime, such as another devastating terrorist attack. He seems to take it on faith that the Republican Party will re-emerge from its terminal condition as something that he likes. Well, the Dems were out of the White House and a minority for six years. Now, they're back. Did they change their spots?

IMHO, Greenhut lacks the courage to say what he really seems to mean, which is: "Elect Hillary and let her kill the Republican Party dead because I want the opposition party to be the Libertarians."

[advance_copy]

Unless Republican candidate Ron Paul – the only supporter of liberty in the bunch of GOP ne'er do wells – somehow propels his impressive Internet campaign into an improbable electoral victory, there is nothing else, but a Clinton victory, that will save the Republican Party and help rebuild the nation's long-suffering freedom movement.

[snip]

All the candidates, except for Paul, stand up for this foolish, unconstitutional, and deadly war and they continue to stand up for the police-state policies that have become the hallmark of the federal security state since the 9/11 attacks.

How to "save the GOP"? Let me see if I've got this straight. Either 1) nominate the moonbat Ron Paul or 2) elect Hillary Clinton. Well, thanks for that wonderful advice, pinhead.

[calcowgirl]

Greenhut's quote of what Guiliani thinks of freedom makes him objectionable to libertarians.

It should make him objectionable to Americans!

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every
single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion
about what you do and how you do it."

-- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, March 17, 1994

[roses of sharon]

No problem, the parties are night and day.

[Rudder]

Dump Guiliani and the party unites.

There are many more rinos than you can count who also have to go. Rudy isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to their numbers and influence on the GOP. Many are deeply entrenched in the GOP and in leadership positions. For example, examine thoroughly the Ohio GOP for the past 30-40 years...damn near all rinos or country club republicans who worship the moderate vote.

[upchuck]

“The first thing those people will do is make sure that they are never out of power again.”

Yep. If the Donks take the White House and hang on to Congress, America, the America we love, is done and finished.

It’s just that simple. And just that sad.

[pawdoggie]

Libertarians like Greenhut are even more disenchanted and many of them abandoned the party in droves in 2006.

The Libertarians abandoned the GOP? I thought they had their own party. Besides, I just came away from a running gun battle with a joker who says losing the Christian Conservatives is what the GOP has to worry about, not the freakin' Libertarians.

[John Valentine]

Greenhut seems to blame President Bush for the fact that the Islamists chose his watch to unleash their war on the American homeland.

Greenhut appears to prefer a President who is more amenable to surrender than any of the current crop of Republicans except for the loopy Ron Paul.

I am not sympathetic to Greenhut, even on his issue of internal security. Railing against magined “police state” Bush Administration tactics do nothing to enhance his credibility, and in fact makes him look like he has more than one loose screw.

I think Greenhut would be more comfortable in the surrender party and suggest he move there forthwith.

Perhaps someday his children and grandchildren will find it possible to be grateful to others for the sacrifices their own forebear wasn’t willing to make to save our nation and our liberty.

Meanwhile, Steven Greenhut can take it to Air America or the daily Kos. They seem to have an appetite for this kind of drivel.

And any one who can buy into the notion that either the Republicans or the nation would be better off for a dose of President Hillary Clinton has ALL his screws in serious need of a screwdriver and a firm grip.