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My Opinion on Ann Coulter's Opinion of the Jews
American Thinker ^
| October 13, 2007
| Kyle-Anne Shiver
Posted on 10/13/2007 6:44:21 PM PDT by neverdem
I'm no more an expert theologian than Ann Coulter is, but I have been a Christian nearly all of my life and have logged in more than 40 years of personal and formal Bible study. So, even though I'm not a lawyer or a best-selling author, I'm compelled to put in my "two cents" on Ann's recent comments about converting all the Jews, so they will be "perfected" like we Christians are. [Please don't anyone throw a Bible at me until I have stated my opinion.]
I remember being positively dumfounded -- exactly the way I am at Ann's declaration -- when I was watching a Phil Donahue show in the early 80's and heard with my own ears as Reverend Jerry Falwell made a similar proclamation on network television. Phil asked Jerry whether he believed all Jews who refused to convert to Christianity were going to hell. Without so much as the blink of an eye, or a moment to consider, the Reverend boldly proclaimed that "Yes!" indeed the Jews are bound for hell. Phil Donahue was as shocked by the statement as I was, but he had neither the knowledge of Scripture nor the Christian experience to debate him, and so the statement just stood there -- un-debunked. A pity.
But along comes Ann Coulter, another famous Christian, who once again throws down the same gauntlet. I'm picking it up now, and I will stake my own salvation and eventual residence in heaven with the Jesus I love with all my heart and soul, on this:
All Jews are no more going to hell than all people who believe they are Christians are going to heaven
I am well aware of the New Testament verses where Jesus declares Himself the one and only Way to the Father. Jesus, as the only begotten Son of God the Father, loved human beings so passionately that He was willing for a time to forsake the glories of heaven, to come down here, live as one of us, suffer humiliation for no cause, and give Himself up without a fight to an anguished death to provide a "roadmap" to His Father's House. I wholeheartedly believe this.
Jesus' birth, life, ministry, Passion, and death provides expatiation of the Sin of the world -- past, present, and future. The price on humanity's collective head for turning against God has been paid in full.
But it's not a Get-out-of-jail-free card for every individual; it serves whatever purpose God ultimately decides Himself. God and God alone will decide. Not me, not Ann Coulter and not Jerry Falwell. If the Pope gets to decide, then I'm probably in and Ann and Jerry might be out. But I'm not touching the authority of the Pope; I'm Catholic.
When it comes to personal salvation, I would like to remind every Christian of this verse that seems to get far less attention than it rightly deserves. This is Jesus speaking to his disciples:
Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me , "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?" Then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers."
Matthew 7:21 (New American Bible)
On the matter of salvation and judgment of the individual soul, Jesus is clear. Talking a good line means little; it's doing that gets rewarded.
Jesus repeats this thinking for us human dullards here:
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, sister and mother.
Matthew 12:50 (also, Mark 3:35 and Luke 8:21)
I know of one man -- a Jew -- who is most definitely in heaven right this very minute. His name was Professor
Liviu Librescu. He was the Jewish hero of the Virginia Tech massacre. He was the
only hero of that hideous day. The supreme irony is that the day he became the Angel of Deliverance for more than a dozen American youth -- April 16, 2007 -- he was also quietly observing Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Professor Librescu, an Israeli citizen, had been living and working at Virginia Tech for 20 years on the day that he blocked his classroom door, used his own 76-year-old body as a shield to protect his students, and heroically bade them to jump out the windows to safety -- even as his own body was riddled with the killer's bullets. Professor Librescu, in that solitary act, demonstrated his abiding faith and love for God and neighbor. As Jesus said, "There is no greater love than when a man lays down his life for his friends." (John 15:13) I know of no one personally who has done a greater act of "Christian" charity than this one.
Now I have an alternate opinion on Judaism and the Jewish people, something I would like Ann to mull over a bit.
Hasn't it occurred to anyone other than myself that God has a very vested interest in maintaining faithful Jews as a people set apart by Him, for Himself, until the very end of time? Whether it was a plan from the very beginning, who knows? But we do know that God is constantly having to call up new recruits and adopt new battle plans to work out His divine will for a human race that uses its free will to run things amuck again and again -- and again.
And let's face this fact, shall we. Any attack on the Jews is a personal attack against God. They are His people; He set them apart for His reasons. God will never, ever abandon His people. Period. If only for the matter of honor. God's own honor rides on the Jews and how the world treats them. If anyone of any generation is most certainly dooming himself to eternal hell, it is the anti-Semite, for to hate the Jews, one must first hate God.
Which brings us to the current world struggle. Anyone who proclaims to be a person of God, must surely recognize the religious dimension of our War against Islamo-Fascism. It may not be the last one of its kind, but the stakes certainly do seem to be escalating.
The Jews refused to recognize Mohammed as a prophet in the 7th Century, and therefore adamantly refused to convert and follow him. This is the precise reason that Mohammed declared them all to be pigs and monkeys, and why he and his followers have waged war on the Jews most of all, and likely will never be willing to live in co-existing peace with them.
This isn't a new war for Israel. The Israelis have been tasting the bitter fruit of Islamo-Fascism for going on 60 years now. While we Americans were still jitter-bugging and baby-booming, Israel was seeing her children -- God's own beloved -- being blown into bits by homemade bombs at their birthday parties. We were blinded to the gruesome reality of the false prophet's "fruit" until 9/11, but the Israelis have had front-row seats, and to this very day have spilled more of their innocent blood on the altar of our God in heaven than could ever hope to be avenged.
So, Ann, please read a little more Scripture. Stop trying to convert Jews, and aim all of your arrows at God's enemies - not at his Chosen People.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; catholics; chosenpeople; jews; librescu
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:44:29 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:48:41 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: neverdem
Therein lies the difference between Catholics and Protestants:
On the matter of salvation and judgment of the individual soul, Jesus is clear. Talking a good line means little; it's doing that gets rewarded.
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:51:25 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: neverdem
Anne stated that Jews should be converted to Christianity?
Naw. Something stinks in Denmark. Lets get the correct context of her statement, before this gets ugly.
Knowing Anne, I wager that her remarks were directed to liberal socialist Jews who support the Democrat Party.
After all, the Islamofascists believe all Christians should be converted to Islam and are willing to kill to make that point. So I have a feeling Kyle-Anne Shiver has been had here, and looks quite ridiculous.
Anne wants the Jewish folks who do not support the US policy on Iran and Iraq, to do a little thinking , which would be the general motivation behind such a remark.
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:53:12 PM PDT
by
Candor7
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
To: neverdem
I’d settle for having Jews stop voting for demokkkrats myself. That to me is the really big mystery of Judaism, i.e. why any Jew would ever vote for a demokkkrat. Last time that made sense even in theory would have been back around 1934 or thereabouts.
To: neverdem
I did not read the entire article, but I can tell you that when I read that a "person" makes a definitive judgment about whether another person is going to heaven or hell I just shake my head. Setting yourself up as He who judges, is a VERY dangerous business and is absolutely not part of the Christian tradition. Well, at least true Christain tradition. Only God thru his Beloved Son can judge a man's heart. God does not break his Covenants and He has a Covenant with the Jewish people.
Stop being Pharisees. Be humble and stop judging others souls....lest ye be judged.
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:55:25 PM PDT
by
big'ol_freeper
("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: DManA
Where the heck do you get that from? That is definitely not part of Catholic doctrine.
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:57:06 PM PDT
by
big'ol_freeper
("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: neverdem
Regarless of one’s feelings on the Jews your take on the New Testament essentially rejects the entire body of Reformation Theology. If you want to accept a works based theology against the entire weight of scripture and informed commentary over the last 500 years so be it. We’ll have to agree to disagree and I’ll still buy you a cup of coffee if we ever bump into each other. I do agree with you a lot of people who think they are Christians are going to be surprised and that Mat. 7:22-23 are the scariest verses in the Bible.
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posted on
10/13/2007 6:59:46 PM PDT
by
joebuck
To: big'ol_freeper
The author claims to be a Catholic and seems to be expressing his idea of Catholic dogma. Actually, I didn’t think he got right but I didn’t want to speak for the Catholic Church.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:00:40 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: big'ol_freeper
Read the three Biblical quotes in italics. I think you’ll get a different impression.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:01:09 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
To: neverdem
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:02:12 PM PDT
by
Bob
To: neverdem
Yadda,yadda,yadda,blah,blah,blah. The left spends as much time trying to catch Ann in rhetorical tricks as they do Rush. They can’t make legitimate arguments against conservatives, so they lie and twist their words in a vain attempt to smear the people they can’t compete with.
To: neverdem
Are you Catholic. Do you think he got the Catholic view of redemption right?
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:04:40 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: neverdem
Jesus' birth, life, ministry, Passion, and death provides expatiation of the Sin of the world -- past, present, and future. The price on humanity's collective head for turning against God has been paid in full. But it's not a Get-out-of-jail-free card for every individual; it serves whatever purpose God ultimately decides Himself. God and God alone will decide.
Huh?
GOD ALREADY DECIDED and says in His Word that ALL WHO BELIEVE in Jesuse ARE SAVED. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Am I misunderstanding this guy or is he making no sense at all?
He claims to believe the Gospel but then turns around and says it's "not a Get-out-of-jail-free card" for everyone?
The Gospel is offered to "everyone" and if it's NOT, then the scriptures are lies and we can't believe anything they say.
What is this guy talking about?
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:05:36 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: neverdem
Yeah that does, but I was commenting on the Falwell quote.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:07:08 PM PDT
by
big'ol_freeper
("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: Candor7
Knowing Anne, I wager that her remarks were directed to liberal socialist Jews who support the Democrat Party.JINOs.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:08:46 PM PDT
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
To: neverdem
"Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?" Then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers."It is very true that those who profess Christ with their lips and deny Him with their actions will not see the Kingdom of Heaven, whether they "claim" to Christian or not.
"Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 10:32-33).
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth" (Romans 1:16).
So how can some one who denies Jesus as their Savior enter the Kingdom of Heaven?
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:10:00 PM PDT
by
gscc
To: big'ol_freeper
I’m confused. I WASN’T commenting on a Falwell quote.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:10:05 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: joebuck
I do agree with you a lot of people who think they are Christians are going to be surprised and that Mat. 7:22-23 are the scariest verses in the Bible. This verse shouldn't confound or scare anybody.
All it really says is that God knows what's in people's hearts.
If they are being real or phony.
I find the idea God knows my heart not scarey, but comforting.
Not because I am so convinced that I a such a good and sincere person, but because God knows who I am with all my faults and yet has been so merciful and good toward me.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:14:07 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: neverdem
We have several threads that have the exact transcript. One of them discusses the fact that so terribly many MSM folks have apparantly not read that script.
The author of one such piece noted that those who have read the transcript know that it's Deutsch who puts words in Ann's mouth about Jews who "need" to be "perfected". She simply didn't say that.
This Kyle-Anne Shiver seems to have not even read the MSM discussions of the event, to say nothing of not having read the transcript.
She is bearing false witness.
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posted on
10/13/2007 7:14:27 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
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