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Ron Paul's electability (Mod update: Ilana Mercer gets in line to have Ron Paul's baby)
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 12, 2007 | Ilana Mercer

Posted on 10/12/2007 9:13:01 PM PDT by Delacon

About one thing Mike Huckabee is right (OK, maybe two): The presidential hopeful told Chris Matthews that if Republicans want to win the 2008 election, they must nominate a candidate who'll appeal to as many independents and Democrats as possible. Dark horse Huckabee expressed the hope that he was the man. Wishful thinking aside, when it comes to Iraq, Huckabee and the rest of the Republican candidates for president, bar Ron Paul, are at odds with the American people. According to every conceivable poll – Gallup, Rasmussen, ABC News/Washington Post – most Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, deem it a mistake and "support the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq within the next year." Like it or not, these are the facts. Iraq, polls predict, will dominate the 2008 elections. Yet nine of the Republican candidates are still flogging that fiasco with brio. On this salient issue, they've adopted a position in opposition to popular wisdom; on Iraq, the Republican candidates are mimicking a man whose approval rating is in the low 30s. Rabbiting on about how Iraq is part of a grander ideological war against terror won't wash any longer; Americans are hip to that hoax. The idea that we can rehabilitate what we ruined in Iraq is delusional – a function of a collective mindset that rejects reality and its lessons. We can't fix Iraq because of what we wrought – because of the original sin of invasion. The sinner cannot turn savior. (Column continues below) Paul understands this. His stance on Iraq makes him appealing to voters from the left, the (real) right and the center. He can thus also lower the Republican Party's considerable attrition rates. Like or dislike him, Ron Paul is the only Republican presidential contender whose position on Iraq.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 225; another911truther; dothemath; godblessronpaul; huckabee; ilanamercer; immigration; iraq; quintillion; ronpaul; ronpaulisanut; tinfoilpaul; wot
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Not going to vote for Ron Paul. But this lady writes a good article about him. Good pitch. I've long said that what the federal government needs is two terms from a libertarian president(though I am not a libertarian). Good medicine is often bitter. He'd be good for the country except for that Iraq thing. American greatness has come in large part from our willingness to use our might to stabilize the world to everyone's benefit. Yes we screw up sometimes but that doesn't mean we should run from that desire. If its all about protecting Americans at home, then the US becomes just another country that just so happens to have the worlds most expensive internal security.
1 posted on 10/12/2007 9:13:03 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon
Isn't there an Ilana rule? ;-)

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What's funny is that the idjit anti-Paulites will call Dr. Paul a "Nazi" when David Duke likes him...yet I don't hear any calling him a "Jew" when a Jewish writer supports him.

2 posted on 10/12/2007 9:25:52 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Delacon
That is a good article. Actually it makes similar arguments to this article, posted on FR a few weeks ago:

Paul Poses Serious Threat to Hillary Clinton in a General Election Match up
3 posted on 10/12/2007 9:30:01 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Delacon
Both benefits and birthright citizenship will be abolished under a Paul administration.

A worthy goal, but I think birthright citizenship would need to be reversed by Constitutional Amendment.

4 posted on 10/12/2007 9:31:21 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Delacon

“Ron Paul’s electability”

Think “Dennis Kucinich only with money.”


5 posted on 10/12/2007 9:32:13 PM PDT by Grunthor (Thank you Mack Strong, and may God Bless you and your entire family.)
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To: Gondring

Thanks. This FR newbie is still learning the rules. Yes she is gorgeous. The only problem I have with beautiful women saying smart things is my ability to concentrate.


6 posted on 10/12/2007 9:35:56 PM PDT by Delacon (When in doubt, ask a liberal and then do the opposite.)
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To: Delacon

Paul gave an interview on PBS today:

Paul Envisions Smaller Government, Less Global Intervention
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec07/paul_10-12.html

JUDY WOODRUFF: You have declined to sign on, as I understand, for the federal pension that every member of Congress is entitled to. So my question is, you’re not worried about your later years? I mean, you could live many more years, Congressman Paul.

REP. RON PAUL: This is one position that I think my wife might disagree with me on. (laugher) There goes our retirement. No, you know, I was in the Congress in the ‘70s and ‘80s, and I’ve been back, so I’ve had a good many years, close to 20 years. I’ve been in the military. So it would be a nice pension fund.

But when I started in Congress, the first time in ‘76, it was even then more lucrative than it is now, but it’s a very lucrative, very beneficial pension fund. And I could not see with me condemning, you know, the system to on the side quietly participate in getting some very good benefits. So I just said, “I’m not going to do it; I’ll have to take care of myself some other way.”

JUDY WOODRUFF: Should everybody else follow suit, do you think?

REP. RON PAUL: Well, no, I don’t think we should have those kind of programs. I think citizens should be representing us in Congress and the work should be reduced. We should cut their pay in half and let them go home and work.

See, if I go home and practice medicine right now, the congressional rules say, “You can’t practice medicine.” I don’t want to take the lucrative pension fund, but ironically, if I wanted to work extra on the weekend, they won’t allow me, because they say it’s a conflict of interest for me to go home and deliver a baby. So figure that out.


7 posted on 10/12/2007 9:36:17 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Abcdefg
A worthy goal, but I think birthright citizenship would need to be reversed by Constitutional Amendment.

It would. And good luck getting three-fourths of all of the state legislatures to ratify it.

8 posted on 10/12/2007 9:36:36 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Delacon
It's to World Net Daily's credit that they will publish this article, despite Joseph Farah's personal opposition to Dr. Paul's candidacy. Vox Day, a libertarian columnist for WND, also writes in favor of Paul.

Paul gets a lot of support from all over the political spectrum, including conservatives who truly believe in a smaller, limited government. Unfortunately, most of the Republicans running for president are globalist, big-government liberals.

Of course, the worst Republican of them all is currently in the White House. Those of you who thought he wouldn't go any further than "comprehensive immigration reform" need to check out the "Dream Act" and the "Law of the Sea Treaty" to see just how far Bush, the Repubs in Congress, and the Libs in Congress are willing to go to destroy our country's sovereignty.

How many of you anti-Paul "conservative" FReepers ever wanted to see the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US? Well, Paul's for that, too!

9 posted on 10/12/2007 9:36:55 PM PDT by WWTD
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To: George W. Bush

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10 posted on 10/12/2007 9:37:28 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Delacon

Electability? dog catcher? slippery weasel of the year club?


11 posted on 10/12/2007 9:37:48 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Delacon

Ron Paul’s electability = zero.


12 posted on 10/12/2007 9:40:22 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Abcdefg

“A worthy goal, but I think birthright citizenship would need to be reversed by Constitutional Amendment.”

Isn’t this about children born of illegal immigrants being automatic citizens? That may just take the ruling of a strict constructionist court to say that your folks had to be here legally in the first place. At the very least, the courts could rule that a baby born here doesnt extend rights to its parents.


13 posted on 10/12/2007 9:43:40 PM PDT by Delacon (When in doubt, ask a liberal and then do the opposite.)
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To: WWTD
Unfortunately, most of the Republicans running for president are globalist, big-government liberals.

The four "top contenders" (aka: establishment approved) are members of the CFR globaloney crowd.

14 posted on 10/12/2007 9:47:23 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: WWTD
“How many of you anti-Paul conservative FReepers ever wanted to see the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US?”

Not I - the UN will remain obnoxious but harmless so long as the US and its veto is a member. The second we leave is the second it plans an invasion.

15 posted on 10/12/2007 9:48:23 PM PDT by decal ("Never allow a nervous female to have access to a pistol, no matter what you're wearing")
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To: Delacon
The primary intent of the 14th Amendment was to secure rights for the freed slaves and the pertinent part reads: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
16 posted on 10/12/2007 9:52:12 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Bullish

Electability is not quite the point, it’s the issues that are being discussed.

During the other night’s debate RP mentioned the *gasp* Constitution and the other candidates were then obliged to mention that Document as well.

And that is why I like Dr. Paul running.


17 posted on 10/12/2007 9:53:02 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on....)
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To: Delacon

Anyone who thinks Ron Paul is electable is huffing too many bags, smokin too much a da ganja.


18 posted on 10/12/2007 9:54:28 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: eleni121

I think this guy should go back to helping his wife make frozen pierogies.


19 posted on 10/12/2007 9:54:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Gondring

Good gosh, she is pretty. But Ron Paul is still a kook.

20 posted on 10/12/2007 9:55:06 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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