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Mexico's Fox openly calls for North American Union
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 12, 2007

Posted on 10/12/2007 4:11:06 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: Quix

Tell me one thing then:

Why is it that the same people that were calling Vicente Fox a lying bastard a year ago are believing every word he says now?


141 posted on 10/12/2007 11:09:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: RockinRight

It will be interesting to see if Pres. Bush denies this.


142 posted on 10/12/2007 11:11:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: RockinRight

Have been trying to ferret out the government stuff on 2012.

There seem to be 100’s of versions of a dozen or two scenarios.

I don’t know what to think, much less what to believe about that.

HOWEVER, THIS I DO KNOW:

1. a fairly trusted associate was going on for 7-12 sentences or so about the horrible event coming in 2012 that we did NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT—it was TOOOO HORRIBLE AND HOPELESS TO EVEN THINK ABOUT. Associate M insisted we would NOT want to know about it. Associate M has plenty of contacts and had evidently learned something solid.

2. I later mentioned that to some others. One of my other friends went back and asked associate M about it and associate M denied ever saying such a thing. Shocking to me. I’d have never guessed that Assoc M would deny anything truthful. Very puzzling.

3. Some seemingly quality scientists of a couple of different groups or more are indicating that there’s some sort of galactic plain sort of thing that comes around every so many 10’s of thousands of years and causes near extinction on earth every time it does. I don’t know what to make of that info but it all sounds reasonably plausible.

4. Some have claimed that’s the date when the globalists will overtly implement the global government. I don’t think so. But could be.

5. Some have postulated that’s when the war with ET will begin. Conceivable.

6. Some have postulated that’s when a massive meteor will crash into the earth starting a global winter.

7. Some have said that’s when the sun will put off so much extra heat due to some sort of galactic plain cycle that most life on earth will be exterminated. Interesting notion. It is also reported that the Hopis have known of this for centuries and have been busily digging deep kivas to store seeds etc. to ride out the 2-3 weeks of most deadly heat. I haven’t yet been able to verify that. Interestingly, the Bible also talks of the sun’s heat as being incredibly hot during some part of the end times.


Therefore what? I don’t know . . . but it seems to me . . . something more than a little interesting is looming.


143 posted on 10/12/2007 11:12:20 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: RockinRight

Evidently, it is your belief

that 100% of every word coming out of every liar’s mouth is 100% of the time 100% a lie.

Sounds like a silly notion, to me.

His pontifications on this issue have been confirmed by 100’s of data points from at least dozens of sources.

Believe what you will. Sooner or later, you’ll have no choice. The facts will be assaulting you and your family.

Now, you have the luxury of disbelief. Some of us no longer have that luxury. We have seen far too much solid evidence to the contrary.

But, go ahead, enjoy the derisiveness, dismissiveness etc. It’s SOP around here at times on such issues.

Many folks were determined to think that Hitler was a wonderful choir boy, too. Some still do.


144 posted on 10/12/2007 11:15:20 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TigersEye

I think he’ll side step it. Laugh it off or rationalize it with some sort of non-answer statement.


145 posted on 10/12/2007 11:15:58 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TigersEye

Fox answered in the affirmative, indicating it was a long-term plan. He admitted he and President Bush had agreed to pursue the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas – a free-trade zone extending throughout the Western Hemisphere, suggesting part of the plan was to institute eventually a regional currency.

‘Splains a lot.

= =

INDEED.


146 posted on 10/12/2007 11:16:31 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: RockinRight

We shall see where we each stand at the end of the era.

You will remember me and you will remember this thread and you will remember your assertions . . . with great grief.


147 posted on 10/12/2007 11:17:25 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: RockinRight
Why is it that the same people that were calling Vicente Fox a lying bastard a year ago are believing every word he says now?

Probably for the same reason that the folks who said he was absolutely truthful then are saying he's a lying bastard just trying to sell books now. 

148 posted on 10/12/2007 11:18:26 AM PDT by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: zeugma
I know there are people who milk the system and out and out criminals like MS-13 (or whatever they call themselves).

There are scum like that in every society.

But I have watched most of these Hispanic Americans - and I am an Anglo but live in a heavily Hispanic area. They work very long hours, they frequently hold more than one job, they open their own businesses. In the long run, as individuals, I view them as a plus for our society.

The problem HERE lies with Americans who are willing to allow Spanish as an unofficial second language - although I could live with THAT if English was adopted as the OFFICIAL language here, and Americans who pander to or profit from, illegal invaders.

There are problems with Hispanic governmental structure which would take a lot of work to straighten out. But the effort would be far less work than any similar endeavor with Red China or Russia (almost lost causes).

America was a free society long before we had our revolution from Britain. Our English history and heritage, along with geography gave us that advantage. The South American Revolutions on the other hand, merely exchanged a set of ruling oligarchs in Madrid with sets of oligarchs in Mexico City, Lima, etc.

The Oligarchs had no reason to exchange their dominance for democracy, a concept alien to them. The masses of exploited peasantry had no ability to do so or exposure to our experiences here in the North.

Today, the same situation still exists in most South American countries, and only when these people are presented with opportunities in a society like ours can they bloom.

So you have a point.

But I think the end result is worth the effort. Red China and the Islamic Neo-Kaliphate is our real enemy. And we need allies. Don’t look to the Euroweenies.

149 posted on 10/12/2007 11:18:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Quix

150 posted on 10/12/2007 11:18:49 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Quix
The first surprise will be if anyone asks him about it.
151 posted on 10/12/2007 11:19:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: zeugma

I say he was a liar then and now. What does that make me?

;-)


152 posted on 10/12/2007 11:19:41 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
A new currency may also be a big headache for the drug cartels.

If they only use electronic cash cards it should slow up or halt the street sales of drugs. Will allow the big sales to go through with less competition. Can you imagine buying drugs on the street with your ATM CARD?

153 posted on 10/12/2007 11:20:05 AM PDT by dvan
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To: RockinRight

Yes,

HTTP://WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM

IS the largest alternative news/discussion website on the planet.

PRAISE GOD for such a site.

It’s brazenly liberally loaded. The few of us conservative Christians who post there are vastly out numbered. Nevertheless, lots of very widely confirmed issues etc. get presented for discussion and for the alert of those perceptive and well read enough to read between the lines.

Some folks refuse to see the nose on their faces, much less the facts between the lines.


154 posted on 10/12/2007 11:21:01 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

8. Some have postulated that all of you people are certifiably insane.


155 posted on 10/12/2007 11:21:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Your personal assaults are so sweet and colorful.

Thanks for your bother.


156 posted on 10/12/2007 11:23:16 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I should provide here the link to the docs about a 100 data points indicating this is uniquely the end times. But I have other priorities at the moment.

teaser

157 posted on 10/12/2007 11:24:08 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: RockinRight

That’s my profession to assess such things.

Your excuse?

Back to pottery.


158 posted on 10/12/2007 11:24:14 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Your profession isn’t pottery I take it?


159 posted on 10/12/2007 11:25:10 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Man50D

I have decided I like the big houses in Scottsdale. I think my family and one of theirs should form a union of some sort. It’s the same kind of thing.


160 posted on 10/12/2007 11:26:00 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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