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Dr. James Dobson Caught Between a rock and the other Rock
CrossActionNews ^ | 10-11-07 | Rev Michael Bresciani

Posted on 10/11/2007 5:04:00 PM PDT by Victory111

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To: walford

Excellent observation and true.


61 posted on 10/11/2007 7:18:29 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Victory111
Dear RNC:

Are you wondering what happened to your contributions? Do not worry. You don’t want the money of xenophobes, bigots, and racists. That’s what you call anyone who doesn’t swallow your lies about immigration, as though you hadn’t told them exactly the opposite just before the last election. That’s also what you call anyone who reminds you what you were sent to DC for (see, we’re just a bunch of morons, who can’t even avoid dangling a preposition).

You behave like Liberals. They indulge in the same sort of abuse when anyone disagrees with them, just as you have done over this immigration amnesty issue. I’ve got to believe, in fact, you are Liberals. Adding insult to injury, you pay far more attention to Libs and the Drive-Bys than to those who put you where you are. You are not only integrity challenged, but learning impaired to boot.

More than three years ago, I wrote you a letter describing how you have failed those of us who have given you our vote and our money (for four or five decades in the case of many of us). I told you then that you had two and a half years. Your time’s up. But, I’ll treat you fairly (not like you treat me), so I won’t leave you guessing what my criticisms were back then.

Briefly, you’ve failed:

To secure a permanent tax reduction. You didn’t even try to finalize tax cuts (and you’ll roll over and beg for favors when Liberals raise taxes);

To cut spending. You’ve spent money like drunken sailors (like Ted Kennedy, in other words);

To do daily battle with the Democrats, without compromise, over the President’s right to his own nominations, not just in the judiciary, but throughout his administration;

To reform Social Security. You had no stomach for that fight either;

To achieve tort reform. Again, you had no stomach for the fight;

To restore the freedom of speech denied by the CFRA. There’s no indication you even understand the issue, or would care if you did understand;

To give the American People just a little internal & external security by battling illegal immigration – we’ve just had that fight, and the only visible result is a bunch of petulant Republicans who are really mad at those of us who frustrated their desire to institutionalize illegal immigration without limitations.

Rather than castigate the Drive-Bys without mercy for the partizan propagandists they are, you lick their hand and whine for a bone. You’re scared to death of the Drive-Bys and foolish enough to think they will like you if you just show them what really nice people you are.

Liberals at least enjoy the virtue of being willing to fight. And their fight is to destroy America and rebuild it in their own image. But, again, you’ve no stomach for a fight. Not even for the life of the republic.

Not only have you failed to achieve anything of substance, but, by throwing open our borders to an unlimited number of aliens with no allegiance to America or American values, you’ve reduced the Republican Party to a feeble second-rate ‘me-too’ Socialist/Marxist echo, and you’ve inflated my vote and my citizenship to the point where you’ve made them both worthless.

I know you think I’ve nowhere to go, but if my money and my vote is wasted on you, then why should I give you either? You don’t get to treat me like the Democrats treat their Blacks.

63 posted on 10/11/2007 7:22:56 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Haddit

Hannity glosses over Hunter becouse he wants Rudy to win.


64 posted on 10/11/2007 7:23:59 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: OKIEDOC

I would hope that there wasn’t 50 so-called self described fundamentalist leaders willing to sell Gods favorite country down the tubes to satisfy their Sanhedrin ego’s.
***If you read the article, you would have seen that there were 50 leaders.

I also hope these guys and gals are not waiting with baited breath for Hillary and the evil Clinton Machine to invite them to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom as a thank you for helping throw the election.
***This nonsense of “if you don’t vote republican, you must be hoping for Hillary to win” is a pure example of straw argumentation. So don’t worry, your hope is fulfilled on this one. But you might want to learn how to reason without using classic fallacies.

As for forming a new party made up of fundamentalist, ain’t gonna happen, ask that egomaniac Ross Perot.
***I agree it probably ain’t gonna happen. And, uh, Ross Perot was no fundamentalist. His family and the Bush family have been feuding down in Texas for decades. That was his motivation, and it worked. For you to think that evangelical christians have the same motivation shows blatant ignorance. It’s the Whig party all over again — go read up on your history, after you have read this particular article, that is.

On the way out of the party please do not turn out the lights because this Christian and lots of other Patriots will still be here fighting the good fight against the Evil of Left Wing Liberalism.
***Fascinating. See what JimRob has to say about turning out the lights on a very similar thread. Since you don’t agree with the founder of this website and you want us out of the party, maybe it’s time for you to consider leaving Free Republic for WideAwake, since this is, after all, not a GOP website.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1909436/posts?page=249#249

To: 2ndDivisionVet
To all who would stay home rather than vote for a Republican who is ‘soft’ on abortion issues:
If Hillary wins, I want you out of the Republican Party for good.

247 posted on 10/11/2007 2:29:36 PM PDT by davidlachnicht (”IF WE’RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.”)
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To: davidlachnicht
Not a problem. If Rudy is the nominee, last one out turn off the lights. As Reagan said, I did not leave the party, it left me.

249 posted on 10/11/2007 2:49:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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65 posted on 10/11/2007 7:26:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Jim Noble
And if Hillary serves two terms, she will appoint not two or three, but six or seven new justices....understood.
She "get" her judges...one way or the other.....rem: what happened to vince foster, ron brown....et. al.

66 posted on 10/11/2007 7:31:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: JMack

Why Hunter hasn’t caught on is such a mystery.
***It is to me as well.

It’s funny as within this very conservative position, there are elements of the liberal tendancy to mandate by force of government the sacrifice of an individual’s rights for the greater good of others they may or may not care about.
***There are elements of it, but that’s not what’s really going on. When we as a nation decided to outlaw slavery, were we engaging “the liberal tendancy to mandate by force of government the sacrifice of an individual’s rights for the greater good of others”? Well, yes and no. What we were doing was EXTENDING the right to LIBERTY to a group of HUMANs that we had not extended that right to before. It interfered with another Human’s right to OWN that human, so it had to be sorted out. But the main driving force behind it was the welfare of the HUMAN who was deprived his rights and also the nation. The main driving force behind the prolife movement is the desire to extend the right to life to that preborn human. There may be other elements to it, but those are side issues compared to this desire.


67 posted on 10/11/2007 7:33:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: wagglebee; Coleus

Morals Absolutes and ProLife ping.


68 posted on 10/11/2007 7:33:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Victory111

Dr. James Dobson Bump


69 posted on 10/11/2007 7:33:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: All
James Dobson is a licensed psychologist and is in private practice.

Leni

70 posted on 10/11/2007 7:39:16 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: walford

Well said!!


71 posted on 10/11/2007 7:41:01 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Victory111

Thompson is our only alternative to Giuliani. Not only that, he is an outstanding alternative with the best chance to beat Hillary. Not a doubt in my mind. Dobson will have to eat his words with respect to Senator Thompson. How will he do that?


72 posted on 10/11/2007 7:45:00 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER! and a FredHEAD!)
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To: walford
Garbage!

You go ahead and lose your honor and your morals voting for someone who thinks it is okay to murder their unborn children.

I WON'T, MY FAMILY WON'T, MY FELLOW CHURCH MEMBERS WON'T, and MY FRIENDS WON'T.

Your boy Rudy is toast. He will split the party right down the middle if nominated.

Why don't you and the rest of the Rudy-philes actually push for a conservative and then we will not have to face this choice.

But that really is the problem, isn't it?! You really are not a conservative, and probably have a strong dislike for those who actually live their lives by their morals vs. pragmatism.
73 posted on 10/11/2007 7:45:19 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: upsdriver
Just curious, what conservative leader have you chosen for yourself?

I haven't chosen a conservative leader since Reagan....

74 posted on 10/11/2007 7:49:22 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: JRochelle
I am one of millions. We are not giving up the pro-life issue for Rudy.

Ah, but of course then you'd be saying it's fine with you if Hillary Clinton wins. And of course she would be far worse than Rudy, on many different fronts.

Principle is great, except when it leads to a result that's even worse.

75 posted on 10/11/2007 7:52:21 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: chaos_5
"Hey, Ross Perrott managed to receive 18.9% of the popular vote, maybe Dodson could get a third party elected!"

More likely to get a certain bulldog-faced, NY transplanted ArkenBitch elected.

76 posted on 10/11/2007 7:53:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: SoConPubbie

But that really is the problem, isn’t it?! You really are not a conservative, and probably have a strong dislike for those who actually live their lives by their morals vs. pragmatism.
***Yup. That’s the problem. And we go round and round with these freepers but most of them won’t own up to that. If they did own up, the gig would be up.


77 posted on 10/11/2007 7:54:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: r9etb

Ah, but of course then you’d be saying it’s fine with you if Hillary Clinton wins.
***I thought we were done with this idiotic level of rambling when we all went through the bugzapper thread.

Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson


78 posted on 10/11/2007 7:55:58 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: xzins
"Let me be clear, W. A vote for Rudy is a vote for a split party; i.e., a vote for Hillary."

Amen!

79 posted on 10/11/2007 8:00:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: L98Fiero

It would seem that you are not well-informed about the details of the medical procedure of abortion. Rape is forcible entry. And even more so is a procured abortion. While I don’t care to post the details of the actual procedure of abortion, I can assure you that it is forcible entry more invasive and more extensive than rape. It also can cause irreparable physical damage at the site of entry and expulsion.

Carrying an unwanted pregnancy to full term and giving the child up for adoption is physically and emotionally far less damaging than abortion.

Also, the instances of impregnation by forcible rape is not nearly as common as is generally thought. There are definite medical explanations for this also.

To condemn to death an innocent life who is not responsible for its conception, but rather to murder it in a seek-and destroy mission is a barbaric method for solving the already traumatizing effect of rape.

It is amazing how much of the true facts and the reality of the abortion procedures are so carefully wrapped in secrecy from the general public, and how the same element applies to the psychological aftermath of abortion, regardless of how the pregnancy occurred. One of the best-kept secrets is the prevalence of post-abortion depression—one that the famous psychiatrist Dr. Conrad Baars wrote that he found to be difficult or almost impossible to treat and cure.

We are a throw-away society—a utilitarian culture when we offer up these innocent lives in sacrifice to the unbridled lust of those who rape.


80 posted on 10/11/2007 8:02:15 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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