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To: T.L.Sink
A wrong decision by the Court will mean the subordination of domestic law to that of foreign international tribunals.

Thanks for all the drama.

The issue here is not sovereignty - the issue here is reciprocity.

If an American is arrested for a crime in Mexico, we want our citizens to have access to the US consulate.

That is what this case is about.

2 posted on 10/11/2007 12:57:00 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Then why isn’t he talking to Mexico instead of the UN?


4 posted on 10/11/2007 12:58:40 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: wideawake
It’s about nailing the pieces of excrement without international hangups. In other words, bringing them under our system in some manner, otherwise they will all try to play this card.
7 posted on 10/11/2007 1:04:44 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: wideawake
If an American is arrested for a crime in Mexico, we want our citizens to have access to the US consulate.

That is what this case is about.

He wasn't denied access to the consulate. He never brought the issue up at trial.

11 posted on 10/11/2007 1:22:32 PM PDT by Gigantor (McCarthy’s conspiracy theory has become an American reality.)
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To: wideawake

“The issue here is not sovereignty - the issue here is reciprocity.”

Comity: com·i·ty Pronunciation Key [kom-i-tee]
–noun, plural -ties. 1. mutual courtesy; civility.
2. Also called comity of nations. courtesy between nations, as in respect shown by one country for the laws, judicial decisions, and institutions of another.

Yeah, you’re sure right on the money there, wideawake.
We certainly wouldn’t want to do anything to jeopardize our great working relationship with our neighbor to the south . . .
They might, Mexico, gee, I dunno—they might start flooding our country with tens of thousands of their undesirable, unemployable, grade school drop-outs.
Or they might start smuggling tons of illegal drugs into our country, while their mealy-mouthed president says things like, “Mexico is wherever you find Mexicans.”
Also, how are we ever to integrate into a North American Union if we don’t learn how to kow-tow to the dictates of a European kangaroo-court?
Overall, you’re flat wrong: the issue is sovereignty.
Mexico and the Euros can go pound sand.


13 posted on 10/11/2007 1:34:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (And like a bad neighbor, Mexico is there)
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To: wideawake
If an American is arrested for a crime in Mexico, we want our citizens to have access to the US consulate. That is what this case is about.

Reciprocity? Never going to happen in Mexico. Their idea of 'fairness' is kidnapping 47 US citizens last year and never finding them!

15 posted on 10/11/2007 1:43:58 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: wideawake

Here’s how the rapist-murderer thinks about what he did...he seeks pen pals and doesnt have one remorseful thought about Jennifer and Elizabeth...

“JOSE ERNESTO MEDELLIN To Whom it may concern, My name is Jose E. Medellin, I am 25 years old. I was born March 4, 1975 in Nuevo Laredo,Mexico. I stand 5” 7 ft tall and I weigh 165 pounds. I have brown eyes and brown hair and I’m currently living on Texas’ death row. I am writing you this letter in hopes to find a pen pal and hopefully we can become friends. Some of my hobbies are reading, military history, drawing, writing, and exercising. That’s basically what I can do in here. I spend most of the day in my cell. Well let me tell you a bit more of myself. I was born in Mexico, but at the age of 9 years old I came to live with my parents in Houston. I went to school there till the tenth grade, after that I dropped out of school and went to work for a construction company till I was 18 years old. At that age is when I got arrested and a few months later I was sitting here on death row. I really hope this fact won’t discourage you from writing me and getting to know me better. If you are interested in corresponding with me, please write to me at the address below.”

That’s the mentality of the illegal alien who did heinious things to two innocent American teenagers, and was convicted for his crimes...

He “got arrested and a few months later (he) was sitting (there) on death row”...He is NOT sorry for what he did and has been duly sentenced to the death penalty...

Until that happens, Jennfer Ertman and her family and Elizabethe Pena and her family will not have justice...


29 posted on 10/11/2007 2:55:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wideawake

I’m glad you appreciate all the drama - especially that associated with the murders. Ames Holbrook has written a book which deals partly with the bogus issue of “reciprocity.” The point is that this isn’t an issue that should even fall within the purview of eiher the Supreme Court or an international court. The government of Mexico is the criminal accomplice of the criminal aliens by encouraging their invasion of the USA - even to the point of providing them with maps and interfering in American domestic politics.


33 posted on 10/11/2007 7:32:38 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: wideawake

“The issue here is not sovereignty - the issue here is reciprocity”

If an American citizen did to children in Mexico
what this scumbag did to our children, I could care less if he got to talk to the American counsulate.


51 posted on 10/12/2007 6:33:36 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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