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DEFYING BUSH, HOUSE PANEL APPROVES RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING WWI-ERA ARMENIAN KILLINGS AS GENOCIDE
Fox News ^ | October 10, 2007

Posted on 10/10/2007 2:57:39 PM PDT by processing please hold

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; armenia; armeniangenocide; nancypelosi; turkey
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To: SJackson
if it came to the floor I couldn't vote against it.

Was it a systematic attempt to exterminate a race of people, do you think. (You know I'm not being snotty, but truly asking what you think.)

81 posted on 10/10/2007 4:14:10 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: XeniaSt

Thank you. Sounds like what in what they purpose for us.


82 posted on 10/10/2007 4:15:48 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Ancesthntr
You mean the same Turks who wouldn't allow us to off-load and transit a division of our troops to Northern Iraq at the beginning of the war in 2003? How many of our soldiers lost their lives because of that?

I don't blame them for that...see post #43.

83 posted on 10/10/2007 4:16:00 PM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: montag813
In 2003, Powell refused to visit Ankara a single time, Bush did not call them either, and Powell demanded Turkey permit entry into Iraq, and even threatened to cancel a scheduled $30 billion U.S. loan guarantee to Turkey.

If true that was more idiocy on the part of "the Decider". Dubya should have been working the phone lines and even arranged a face to face meeting with the PM to sway the Turks. Our 4th Infantry Division was supposed to invade from the north via Turkey. It would have made a major difference.

Maybe there really is something to Vicente Fox's critique of Bush ("...the cockiest guy I have ever met.").

Apparently Powell doesn't even have half the horse sense of Baker. Not that Baker was without his faults, mind you.

84 posted on 10/10/2007 4:19:04 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: hsalaw
I’m just saying I don’t see how our national interests are served by this.

And I can't tell you, you have to figure that out for yourself.

85 posted on 10/10/2007 4:19:21 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Bahbah

Yes. That’s the way Ambassador Morgenthau, and I believe his successor, described it. The extermination of a race, today we’d say religion. I accept his opionion.


86 posted on 10/10/2007 4:20:38 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: montag813; All

Not Powell’s fault at all.

Turkey is a parastate whose Muslim kleptocrats have for far too long been supported ot the tune of billions of US tax dollars.

That nasty little business in the run-up to the Iraq War in 2003 is when the Turks denied the United States permission to enter northern Iraq via Turkey causing numerous additional American casualties and allowing thousands of Baathists, criminals, and terrorists — who otherwise would have been interdicted by a northern front — to escape.


87 posted on 10/10/2007 4:21:49 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: processing please hold

Mine, too... but don’t tell my brother-in-law.


88 posted on 10/10/2007 4:22:24 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: hsalaw

could be would be but never comes through..why? they are Muslims—they kill NON muslims not ally with them when our enemy is Muslims!

In any case plenty of republicans including one of the best supported this resolution—Duncan Hunter.


89 posted on 10/10/2007 4:24:36 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: processing please hold

My pleasure!


90 posted on 10/10/2007 4:25:07 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: DocRock
I won't.

That picture gave me chill bumps.

91 posted on 10/10/2007 4:25:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
:)

Maybe some on here read it and it refreshed their memory of just what that phrase means.

92 posted on 10/10/2007 4:27:58 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: montag813

I totally agree on Colin Powell being either inept or refusing to do the right thing on the run up to Iraq invasion. As it has turned out he was just a POS and failed miserably with the Turkish access to N. Iraq which IMO would have been tremendously helpful in sauashing the insurgency before it got rolling!
Maybe the hhistory will correctly note this failure and CB will get painted for it!


93 posted on 10/10/2007 4:29:15 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: eleni121
Not Powell’s fault at all.

I consider you biased on this issue, given your emotional posts regarding the Armenian genocide issue. So I will respectfully put aside your comments on the Powell-Turkey debacle, on which you are simply mistaken. I am neither Turk nor Armenian, so I have no dog in this hunt.

94 posted on 10/10/2007 4:35:34 PM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: eleni121
Nobody fools freepers

That's a laugh.

Happens all the time.

95 posted on 10/10/2007 4:36:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Cyropaedia
If true that was more idiocy on the part of "the Decider". Dubya should have been working the phone lines and even arranged a face to face meeting with the PM to sway the Turks.

The Turkish PM had already agreed to allow the 4th A.D. into Iraq via their territory. But Powell's threats regarding the $30 billion loan angered the Turkish people and the Parliament unexpectedly voted the plan down at the last minute, when we could not turn back. Powell is a horse's ass, and was completely in over his head in a situation that required great diplomatic aplomb.

96 posted on 10/10/2007 4:38:06 PM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: SolidWood

I disagree. It was not the current state of Turkey that perpetrated the “genocide” but the Ottoman Empire. I suppose that you also support the US apologizing to African nations for its role in slavery? Same thought process.


97 posted on 10/10/2007 4:40:09 PM PDT by Hurtgen (the good guys always get it in the end)
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To: montag813

Yep, Powell really was in over his head. We could have used Condi then.


98 posted on 10/10/2007 4:43:27 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: montag813
The Turkish PM had already agreed to allow the 4th A.D. into Iraq via their territory

We were being strung along.

But Powell's threats regarding the $30 billion loan angered the Turkish people and the Parliament unexpectedly voted the plan down at the last minute, when we could not turn back.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Virtuous and moral, hahahahahaha.

So, have the virtuous and moral turks stopped taking our billions of dollars a year yet?

99 posted on 10/10/2007 4:43:56 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: rineaux

In addition to the billions we already give them. :)


100 posted on 10/10/2007 4:45:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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