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To: Plutarch

The Fred bounce is completely gone. Add Giuliani is moving back up in the polls. After this Rasmussen poll gets factored into the RCP polling average, Rudy will be cracking 30% for the first time since May (he’s at 29.6% now). This race is now Rudy’s to lose.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html


30 posted on 10/10/2007 10:09:26 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Are there any post debate polls out yet?


35 posted on 10/10/2007 10:11:53 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: finnman69
“This race is now Rudy’s to lose.”

It may be Rudy’s to lose but if so he is going to lose it. A large part of his support is name recognition. That advantage will disappear before the first voting. Another large part of his support comes from the erroneous perception that he is likely to win in November. That too will fade. Barring Ron Paul, Rudy was the weakest candidate on the stage last night. Sooner or later even the most bone-headed Rudyphiles will have to grapple with the reality that many voters Republicans can't do without will not vote for America’s Mayor under any circumstances.

With Rudy as the nominee it would be game, set and match to Hillary. When the Republican primary electorate realizes this it will coalesce around an alternative, either Thompson or Romney, and Rudy will crash and burn.

At this point the polls are evidence only of which candidate has recently gotten the most favorable publicity. They ask people what they think about a race they haven’t yet thought about and then report the results as if they have deep meaning. When, as the old saying goes, you ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer.

Whether you are picking stocks or candidates it pays to focus on the fundamentals. Whatever the polls may say this morning Rudy is a nonstarter.

51 posted on 10/10/2007 10:39:48 AM PDT by fluffdaddy
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To: finnman69
Yes!

Pat yourself on the back! You’ll Liberalize the GOP yet!

Pretty soon, you Rockefeller type can have a pure super-minority again. No more having to deal with the SoCons....phew!

You can just go back to DEMANDING that they bow to your candidate after the primaries, or be charged with (essentially) sedition. Bravo! “Sure my candidate worked for a lifetime against nearly all of your important causes — but Hillary might win, so you’re a traitor if you don’t get behind Rudy911!”

It's good either way to me: Non-Rudy911 candidate - I work my butt off again for the GOP. Rudy911 wins - I work my butt off against GNP (Grand New Party). They throw me and my kind overboard, we sink their ship. Time for a divorce.

Go ahead, thump your chest - LIBERALS RULE!!!!!!!!

53 posted on 10/10/2007 10:44:08 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: finnman69

Posters on this forum have been predicting Giuliani’s imminent demise since the day he announced. Yet he hangs on. I think he did well last night. I think he will be among the top candidates as long as the race goes on. His negatives are well known; there are some who will never vote for him no matter what. But he remains competitive.


54 posted on 10/10/2007 10:45:51 AM PDT by karnage
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To: finnman69

But WHY? Rudy might as well be a damn Democrat. I DON’T GET his support.


56 posted on 10/10/2007 10:46:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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