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Did Fred Thompson Fizzle Or Flourish In His First Presidential Debate?(Also FReep Poll)
WDEF-TV12 ^ | October 9, 2007 | Joe Legge

Posted on 10/09/2007 3:24:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Fred Thompson took the stage in Michigan this afternoon in his first presidential debate. Thompson entered the race just over a month ago, announcing his candidacy on late night tv -- in an effort to upstage his opponents sparring that evening in another debate.

Some political observers called this the most important performance of Thompson's life. Over the past three weeks, support for Thompson has slipped in the polls, while rivals Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney noticed steady increases.

The moderators started the debate, " Senator Thompson this is your first debate, and we kick it off with you." Answering his first question about the economy, the former trial attorney seemed more shaky, than smooth. Thompson replied, "the stock market seems to be doing well, uh, I see no reason to believe we're headed for, uh, economic downturn."

Thompson's opponents waited anxiously for this day, hoping to tarnish some of his hollywood sparkle by showing their knowledge of the issues. Mike Huckabee said "I want to make sure people understand for many people on this stage the economy is doing terrifically well, but for a lot of Americans its not doing so well." While Congressman Duncan Hunter attacked, "Senator Thompson the other senators, you all voted for most favored nation status for communist china, that set the ground work for 1.8 million high paying manufacturing jobs moving off-shore."

Thompson ad-libbed well, joking about a tiff between Rudy Guiliani and Mitt Romney over who cut taxes more, in areas known for high taxes. But under direct questioning , he offered few ideas for fixing domestic issues, like unemployment, taxes, and trade with foreign countries. "So we need to do everything we can to make sure we're doing all that we can to protect the infrastructure we've got and scrutinize these deals number one first and foremost from a national security standpoint," Thompson replied to a question about allowing a foreign company to invest in NASDAQ.

Thompson's advisors had one goal for their candidate in this debate, show voters he wants the job his supporters drafted him into appling for.

9 Presidential hopefuls took part in this debate, making it tough for any one candidate to stand out.

If you missed the debate this afternoon, you have another chance to catch it tonight, when it will be re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9:00 PM.

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Poll Will Fred Thompson's debate performance impact his candidacy?: Yes, he did great and should get a boost Yes, he faltered and will tumble in the polls No impact


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Tennessee
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FRed did fine for his first presidential debate and will, I'm sure, improve as time goes on. Comments?
1 posted on 10/09/2007 3:24:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just wish he would stop saying “uh” so much.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 3:25:42 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Started a little weak, finished fine.


3 posted on 10/09/2007 3:26:43 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The media sure does seem anxious to write Thompson off ASAP.

I don't think they're too wild about the prospect of another republican presidential candidate who is

a) able to communicate effectively
b) likeable, and
c) conservative

...after so many years.

4 posted on 10/09/2007 3:29:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So we need to do everything we can to make sure we're doing all that we can to protect the infrastructure we've got and scrutinize these deals number one first and foremost from a national security standpoint," Thompson replied to a question about allowing a foreign company to invest in NASDAQ.

Huh?

That said, I voted no impact.

5 posted on 10/09/2007 3:29:14 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he did ok, a tad rough around the edges perhaps, but I think he is in a good spot right, fly just at radar level and let the other guys beat the crud outa each other. He will have to step it up in later venues tho’...


6 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:05 PM PDT by Airwinger (Pray for peace, but be prepared!.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would have to say that he did better than Tancredo and McCain and probably worse than everybody else. The substance of his answers was fairly good. However, his presentation wasn’t that great. He looked tired and spoke in a slow almost monotone way that was fairly boring. His weakest answers were at the beginning about the economy and his strongest answers were toward the end the debate on national security and then fluff questions directed to him.


7 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:14 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While Congressman Duncan Hunter attacked, "Senator Thompson the other senators, you all voted for most favored nation status for communist china, that set the ground work for 1.8 million high paying manufacturing jobs moving off-shore."

Ouch.

8 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:35 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ditto. I think he did fine, and will improve.


9 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: MarkeyD
I think he's being "folksy".

Like with Bill Clinton and George Bush, Yale graduates, both, always mis-pronouncing the word "nuclear".

I think Fred just needs to knock lay off the cigars for that cough.

10 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: dschapin

Oh, and he also stumbled a lot in his answers. With lots of ums and repeated phrases. Again, he did better with this towards the end of the debate.


11 posted on 10/09/2007 3:31:57 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: MarkeyD
He didn’t seem prepared for certain questions. Rusty. No pop, nothing inspiring and exciting. I’m not looking for an entertainer, but your need a little charisma. He had a few good answers, but he’s either not ready/comfortable yet and needs to turn it up a lot of notches real soon or people are going to have to start accepting another “savior” because I don’t see him as it at all. I think he’d get crushed by Hillary and/or Obama. He’s whoop Edwards, but that’s about it.

Tom T has more life and electability from what I’ve seen last two debates. Brownback gets a few issues (the importance of the family and its significance re: economy, crime, drugs, etc.), but I wouldn’t support him. Huck panders on certain issues. Like it or not, in terms of performance Rudy and Romney are the best. Hunter was right there with them (and he’s better on the issues, but I don’t think as good on the stage) and McCain had a great night.

Lastly, I like having Ron Paul on the stage, he demonstrates his ignorance (unconstitutional to take military strikes? huh war powers?) and wackiness. If he wasn’t there he’d be some mythical god. Now everyone gets to see that while he has some great catch phrases and espouses conservative principles he’s a wackjob (and it’s a shame b/c on some issues he’d right).

12 posted on 10/09/2007 3:34:57 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: skeeter

a) able to communicate effectively

gotta tell ya, man......if he is communicating effectively, he’s an empty suit with A.D.D. as well.


13 posted on 10/09/2007 3:35:16 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: dschapin

I’ve remain hopeful about his entrance in this race. As for this debate, I don’t think he hurt himself, though his performance was a bit flat. I think he’s lost more weight than I would prefer, and I think that may affect his energy level.


14 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:09 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

If this was the first time I’d heard him speak I’d agree with you.


15 posted on 10/09/2007 3:38:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I liked Fred, he did “okay” I think he had a cold, or allergies and couldn’t take any medicine for it.

And keep in mind that the stage was packed with also rans, as soon as some of the chaff drops off of the stage Fred and everyone else will get more of an opportunity.

I have to say, Mitt and Rudy did well.


16 posted on 10/09/2007 3:42:13 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on....)
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To: skeeter

I think their real problem with FDT is they the he is electable.


17 posted on 10/09/2007 3:43:54 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have to say that I was hoping I would like Thompson, but I came away with the impression that he cannot win. He looks old and he never smiles. His answers are honest enough, but he just doesn't seem ready for prime time. I contrast his appearance with also bald Giuliani who smiled all the time and just seemed completely Presidential.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 10/09/2007 3:44:14 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Fred did so poorly. I wonder why every left wing loony mentioned him in their first sentence when the debate ended. And he seems to be all they have talked about since. This happened because they fear the Fred. I think Fred did fine. Romney looked like a good choice for secretary of commerce. Hunter looked good for secretary of defense. And how about Guliani for attorney general. Oh I almost forgot Ron Paul I should be so lucky. What if Fred were to create a national director of dog catchers. Ron Paul would be great. He could travel around in a space ship and collect strays.


19 posted on 10/09/2007 3:44:29 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Old Sarge
Even that statement is more articulate than most of what Bush sputters.
20 posted on 10/09/2007 3:45:19 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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