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New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson
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| 10-8-2007
| Jennifer Mesko
Posted on 10/08/2007 5:17:30 PM PDT by monomaniac
New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson
by Jennifer Mesko, associate editor
Majority only will support a presidential candidate who shares their values.
A New York Times/CBS News poll shows white, evangelical Republicans agree with Dr. James Dobson.
Nearly 60 percent of those who plan to vote in the primaries said they could not support a candidate they didn't agree with on issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. Eighty-six percent said presidential candidates should be judged on both their political record and their personal life.
Dr. Dobson has taken a beating in the media for promising to vote only for a candidate who shares his basic values, even if that means supporting a third-party candidate.
Last week, he wrote an op-ed piece for The New York Times to clarify his position: "Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed."
Rick Scarborough, president of Vision America, a Texas-based group that has a network of 5,000 pastors willing to mobilize their churches to vote, said evangelicals are not bluffing.
I am not going to cast a sacred vote granted to me by the blood of millions of God-fearing Americans who died on the fields of battle for freedom, for a candidate who says its OK to kill the unborn, he told The Times. I just cant.
WATCH DR. DOBSON ON TV
Dr. James Dobson will be a guest on Hannity & Colmes on the Fox News Channel tonight at 9 ET. The program re-airs at midnight ET. He will offer his views, as a private citizen, on the 2008 presidential election.
FOR MORE INFORMATION
Read Dr. Dobson's op-ed that ran in The New York Times last week.
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KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; christianvote; dobson; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; evangelical; evangelicals; fred; fredthompson; hannity; hannityandcolmes; homosexualagenda; humanlife; killing; life; nyt; poll; prolife; religion; republicans; romney; rudy; samesexmarriage; thompson; unborn
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To: monomaniac
Are we now trusting the NYT to define an “evangelical?”
Basically, they take those who agree with Dobson, and say they are “evangelicals.” The rest of us don’t qualify.
To: Kimberly GG
“Dobson on Hannity tonight....Hannity trying to convince Dobson is A OK. LMAO. Not happening Sean”
You mean Hannity is trying to convince Dobson that Rudy is A OK?
42
posted on
10/08/2007 6:13:35 PM PDT
by
dmw
(Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
To: Don'tMessWithTexas
By nominating Giuliani it is you who will break the coalition. You know what nominating an abortion supporter will do and you are advocating it anyway.
43
posted on
10/08/2007 6:14:28 PM PDT
by
gscc
To: Kimberly GG
Dobson on Hannity tonight....Hannity trying to convince Dobson that GUILIANI is A OK. LMAO. Not happening Sean
And he WON’t support Fred either!
Sean whining Hitlery will win, Hitlery will win...Everybody’s Scaredy Scaredy pants of Hitlery....geesh.
Dobson NOT backing down.
44
posted on
10/08/2007 6:14:55 PM PDT
by
Kimberly GG
(Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Samuel Johnston:
It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans (Muslims), pagans, etc., may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves.
[Elliots Debates, Vol. IV, pp 198-199, Governor Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788 at the North Carolina Ratifying Convention]
45
posted on
10/08/2007 6:15:15 PM PDT
by
donna
(Perhaps if republicans would adhere to the Bible’s first 10 Commandments they wouldn’t need an 11th.)
To: Don'tMessWithTexas
In my opinion- Dobson’s gone way over the top.
Every time I listen to him I become more angry.
Dobson says he knows it’s a difficult situation- but he’s lived his live on principles and he won’t stop now.
And yet he understands that this very attitude and resulting votes will give us Hillary. THEN where will he be with his principles? Satisfied, but with MORE aborted babies.
46
posted on
10/08/2007 6:17:03 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: Brilliant
I am sure that Dr. Dobson does not expect all to agree with him, and time will bare that fact out, Evangelicals are not political idiots.
They will never participate in the election of Hill and Bill for another 2 terms.
Never.
To: SE Mom
Thanks for clarifying that.
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posted on
10/08/2007 6:17:44 PM PDT
by
dmw
(Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
To: Kimberly GG
I agree with Dobson on sticking to principles, if that means Hildebeast wins, that also means that the Republicans who ran had no core principles.
Rudy peed in the NRA face, and now we are supposed to buy a conversion to principles?
Relativism is a Hillary trait, it doesn’t suit us.
49
posted on
10/08/2007 6:19:12 PM PDT
by
padre35
(Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on....)
To: Kimberly GG
I don’t always go along with Sean- but in this instance- I completely agree with him.
Split the GOP vote in the general election and we WILL get Hillary.
And just what kinds of justices will she nominate for SCOTUS?
THINK ABOUT IT.
50
posted on
10/08/2007 6:19:56 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: monomaniac
The big problem is that a popular voice like Hannity is pushing Guliani because he thinks he is left enough to attract some moderates who are pro-abortion and homo-marriage. In the process you lose the pro-life Christians. You're trading a dime for a nickel. I am mystified by his stance.
51
posted on
10/08/2007 6:21:16 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: monomaniac
What the blinder-laden evangelicals (I am an evangelical, but not blinder-laden) need to realize is that the NYT here is begging the Right to split.
Ask yourself: Do I want to do what the NYT wants me to do?
52
posted on
10/08/2007 6:24:18 PM PDT
by
Eccl 10:2
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
I am as Conservative as Dobson but, his third party, or sit at home routine puts abortion judges on the court.
Dobson thinks when Hitlery wins it will mobilize the conservatives.
There will be no other chances, we are in the war for our lives and this idiot wants to cut off his nose to spite his face.
Remember 4 yrs. of Hitlery will put abortion judges on the court. It is to bad the Dobson people are pro abortion.
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posted on
10/08/2007 6:24:35 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: SE Mom
Then you should avoid a split in the party and not support an abortionist.
54
posted on
10/08/2007 6:24:40 PM PDT
by
gscc
To: dawn53
"What I dont understand is this: Dobson is against Guiliani, against Thompson, Im assuming against Romney?" He hasn't ruled out supporting Romney
To: Eagles6
I am not aware that SH has announced his support for RG? Or that he is “pushing” him by any means. He just did a great interview with FT.
Maybe since he has known RG for many years, being a NYer and all, he seems to be comfortable with him.
But, no way would SH not support the eventual nominee, he will work damn hard for whomever is nominated.
To: Eagles6
I don’t watch a lot of TV or listen to much radio, but you mentioned that Hannity is pushing Guiliani...have any of the other national conservative talk show hosts, or conservative TV puncits made their choice known?
The thing that gets to me about Dobson’s statements is that we know who he won’t vote for, we don’t know who he will vote for? Seems to me that if he’s ruled out Fred and Guiliani, that leaves Romney or McCain...I can’t imagine he’d support McCain, so then it’s Romney. And what does Romney have to do or not do to get a nod or “push” Dobson into a third party situation. It all sounds like a bit of political “blackmail” or juvenille behavior to me. Play our way or we’ll take our “marlbes” and go home.
57
posted on
10/08/2007 6:28:14 PM PDT
by
dawn53
To: SE Mom
Splitting the vote wouldn’t be an issue if there was united support behind a conservative in the primary, instead of the support being divided between a bunch of moderates.
I’m with Dobson on this....I’m not going to decide or be bullied into believing that one of the top tier RHINO’s is the only candidate who can beat Hillary.
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posted on
10/08/2007 6:29:01 PM PDT
by
Kimberly GG
(Support Duncan Hunter in YOUR State....http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
To: Eccl 10:2
No - you ask yourself!! If you, and I emphasize you, want to split the party and nominate Giuliani then it is you and no one else who will be splitting the party!
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posted on
10/08/2007 6:29:37 PM PDT
by
gscc
To: gscc
I’ll not support Guiliani in the primary, but as somebody else said on a thread the other day, if Bozo the Clown is running against Hillary, then I’m voting for Bozo for President...there is a lesser of two evils, and a third party candidate is not a viable option. We’ve been there, done that, and we got Clinton for 2 terms.
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posted on
10/08/2007 6:33:36 PM PDT
by
dawn53
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