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New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson
CitizenLink.com ^ | 10-8-2007 | Jennifer Mesko

Posted on 10/08/2007 5:17:30 PM PDT by monomaniac

New York Times Poll: Evangelicals Agree with Dr. Dobson

by Jennifer Mesko, associate editor

Majority only will support a presidential candidate who shares their values.

A New York Times/CBS News poll shows white, evangelical Republicans agree with Dr. James Dobson.

Nearly 60 percent of those who plan to vote in the primaries said they could not support a candidate they didn't agree with on issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. Eighty-six percent said presidential candidates should be judged on both their political record and their personal life.

Dr. Dobson has taken a beating in the media for promising to vote only for a candidate who shares his basic values, even if that means supporting a third-party candidate.

Last week, he wrote an op-ed piece for The New York Times to clarify his position: "Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed."

Rick Scarborough, president of Vision America, a Texas-based group that has a network of 5,000 pastors willing to mobilize their churches to vote, said evangelicals are not bluffing.

“I am not going to cast a sacred vote granted to me by the blood of millions of God-fearing Americans who died on the fields of battle for freedom, for a candidate who says it’s OK to kill the unborn,” he told The Times. “I just can’t.”


WATCH DR. DOBSON ON TV
Dr. James Dobson will be a guest on Hannity & Colmes on the Fox News Channel tonight at 9 ET. The program re-airs at midnight ET. He will offer his views, as a private citizen, on the 2008 presidential election.

FOR MORE INFORMATION
Read Dr. Dobson's op-ed that ran in The New York Times last week.



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To: Grunthor
Do you really have any idea how frightening it would be if the intellect of the Creator of the universe was so small that one of us could figure out what he “wants?”

It is easy to find out what He wants... He wrote a Book.

221 posted on 10/08/2007 10:55:26 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: Valin
Assuming Rudy wins the GOP nomination doing anything to get him defeated and putting any democrat in the WH (IMO) sets the pro-life movement back 10(?)-20(?) more years and cases the deaths of untold numbers of children.

Look at his record, not his promises.

222 posted on 10/08/2007 10:59:46 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Then why doesn’t Dobson line up behind Hunter?


223 posted on 10/08/2007 11:29:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
However, I do understand that the only realiable thing I will get if I vote 3rd party is Hillary elected and Ruth Bader Ginsberg redux.

And, if Giuliani gets elected we get David Souter redux as well as a guarantee no conservative reaches the White House for eight years and that Republicans remain in the minority in Congress for likely a decade.

224 posted on 10/08/2007 11:54:56 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Lakeshark
Do you think God wants 3 more Ruth Ginsburgs on the court so we can forget overturning Roe v Wade and try to overturn things such as partial birth abortion restrictions?

Do you think God wants someone that supports taxpayer-funding for abortion, has opposed a ban on partial-birth infanticide and marched in every gay pride parades as mayor of New York in office?

225 posted on 10/08/2007 11:56:21 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
Do you think God wants 3 more Ruth Ginsburgs on the court so we can forget overturning Roe v Wade and try to overturn things such as partial birth abortion restrictions?

Do you think God wants someone that supports taxpayer-funding for abortion, has opposed a ban on partial-birth infanticide and marched in every gay pride parades as mayor of New York in office?

And let's not forget Rudy has spoken very highly of Ginsburg. I would not trust him not to put someone like her on the bench, he put even worse on the bench when he was mayor.

Giuliani:"That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And [John Roberts] fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category. I mean, she was -- she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. Lots of Republicans supported her.

226 posted on 10/09/2007 12:11:02 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: jwparkerjr
"No matter how much you disagree with Rudy if he’s the candidate of the party and you sit out the vote,
or vote for a third party candidate, knowing full well he or she can’t win you are
in essence casting a vote for the opposition."

That is a lie that if, God forbid, anyone to the left of Fred Thompson is nominated
we will hear over and over, ad nauseum.

Sometimes you have to pick the side you know is going to lose, just because it's the right thing to do.
If George Washington didn't believe that we'd still be spending pounds and drinking tea.

227 posted on 10/09/2007 12:21:21 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: monomaniac
I will NOT vote for a RINO in the Republican primary but I will probably plug my nose and vote for whoever wins the Republican nomination, whether they are a RINO or not because the prospect of a President Clinton or President Obama stinks even worse.
228 posted on 10/09/2007 12:40:35 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: Kevmo
Then why doesn’t Dobson line up behind Hunter?

I don't know why, He is the perfect canidate with some push that Dobson and the Christian Right (which I am a proud member of when it is right) could give him.

I have emailed Focus on the Family about this tonight. Hopefully he will relook Mr. Hunter a second time.

229 posted on 10/09/2007 12:55:48 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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To: LowOiL; Kevmo
Then why doesn’t Dobson line up behind Hunter?

He (or rather Focus on the Family) cannot endorse a candidate due to IRS restrictions. But he can eliminate candidates by saying who he does not endorse... ;)

230 posted on 10/09/2007 1:04:32 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: the808bass
Bullcrap. Instead, why doesn't the Republican party nominate someone who stands on principle?

A lot of the Rudybots on FR really have no core beliefs, no values, no sense of surpassing truth, no principles, and so they don't understand the notion of a "line in the sand." They conduct a rigorous self examination and they conclude their only core belief is that they don't like Hillary. Rudy can throw off wives like he's changing underpants; he can promote "gay" rights, abortion "rights," gun control, and higher taxes, and none of that triggers any nausea in them, because he's "not as bad as Hillary." They actually see this cowardice as some sort of virtue, but the fact is simple--Republicans will never really win without principled conservatives getting out the vote. It's important to remind them that there can be no winning coalition with RINOS in charge. Rudy should be a good American and bow out.
231 posted on 10/09/2007 1:21:43 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: monomaniac

hillary couldn’t plan it better—maybe she did.


232 posted on 10/09/2007 1:24:42 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron; ISBN 1-4137-5397-3.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Then maybe the party needs to get its act together and stop promoting candidates that split the party, if they don’t want a good chunk of its members voting for the opposition.


233 posted on 10/09/2007 1:41:06 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: farmer18th
Republicans will never really win without principled conservatives getting out the vote. It's important to remind them that there can be no winning coalition with RINOS in charge.

Nor will any of the top four... Corporate packaging plus "Anyone but Hillary" fear mongering suggests to each that they have a good chance of winning.

What no one seems to understand, those who labor for the RINOs is that they labor in vain. There is no win in the general election without the Conservative Christians and the Conservative libertarians. PERIOD. Ain't gonna happen. There is no popularity available that outweighs the Right Wing.

Christians and Libertarians vote on deeply held convictions. That isn't a problem for the Republicans if they stick to what they stand for. What is being wholly ignored is that the principles of the Republican party are the ONLY thing that keep us united. When the party is off it's rails all unity dissolves immediately.

It isn't the Christians and the Libertarians that are compromised, it is the RINOs who cannot understand that the very compromises they insist upon are invariably driving the wedges deeper and deeper.

Where are the howling hordes that swore they would kick the RINOs out just a few short months ago during the immigration mess? How many of y'all are now supporting a RINO and how can you justify that?

Oh ye of little faith!

234 posted on 10/09/2007 1:43:49 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Good post, although the best Commander-in-Chief shall place God first in his thinking in all things at all times. That doesn’t prevent him from exercising legitimate national authority in the defense of the nation, even by the use of offensive tactics.

IMHO, we’ve succumbed to the notion that living within the world implies one must be worldly in their thinking, rather than recognizing His Plan is best fulfilled by those remaining in faith through Christ in all things first, including the defense of the nation from antiChristian assault by active measures.

BTW, I also do not advocate those who seek Christian crusades. Instead, every believer is to respect those institutions God has etablished and their legitimate authority, which are available to believer and unbeliever alike, namely free will, marriage, family and national governance.


235 posted on 10/09/2007 1:48:26 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Shortstop7

That is precisely how it affected me... like a playground bully.... immature and angry beyond reason.

LLS


236 posted on 10/09/2007 4:24:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: donnab

I was a supporter of dobson’s... no more. I think you have summed it up nicely.

LLS


237 posted on 10/09/2007 4:28:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Kevmo

Ann says she could vote for Thompson... she told o’bloviator that. She will not vote for rootie unless he comes to Jesus for real. That will not happen. Ann and I agree on rootie.

LLS


238 posted on 10/09/2007 4:31:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: EternalVigilance
We must make sure we do not nominate Rudy. Beyond that, our side has no consensus as to who is acceptable. That is the problem. Everyone says that either we nominate my guy or I'm not playing ball.

I fear Hillary so much that any of our guys are preferable to her.

239 posted on 10/09/2007 4:39:56 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: Cvengr
How very correct! The party seems to have a death wish. We’ve got to remember that liberals are followers, not leaders. Leaders think for themselves, followers are content to get a reason for something from someone else.
240 posted on 10/09/2007 4:55:16 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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