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He Can Act, but Can He Debate? Untested Thompson Faces Rivals for First Time
New York Times ^ | October 8, 2007 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 10/07/2007 10:12:27 PM PDT by Doofer

In an unusual political season that seems to offer up a presidential debate every week or so, the Republican debate tomorrow is expected to offer something new: Fred D. Thompson.

Untested in debate against his opponents until now, Mr. Thompson, a late entrant to the race, chose to skip the last contest in favor of announcing his candidacy on “The Tonight Show” early last month — a decision for which he was roundly criticized. Many have been wondering how Mr. Thompson, a former senator from Tennessee, will do.

By his own admission he is “a bit rusty” when it comes to debating, and he has said he hopes he will be able to “hang in there” with the other candidates, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, the sharp-tongued former New York mayor, and Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, who is known for his polished delivery. A look at some of Mr. Thompson’s debates years ago offers a mixed picture, with the candidate mostly projecting calm and confidence against Representative Jim Cooper, his Democratic opponent for the Senate seat in 1994.

Mr. Thompson’s delivery back then was usually smooth and expressionless, not a monotone but not displaying much charisma, either. He sounded articulate, speaking in full, well-rounded sentences, but stopped short of eloquence.

Even when he was on the attack, or firing back at a rough question, he rarely lost his cool. Speaking of Mr. Cooper, he deadpanned, “There’s nothing more desperate than a career politician facing the prospect of having to get a real job for the first time in his life.”

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I suspect no matter how well Thompson does in the debate in something less than 48 hours from now the MSM will declare that he under performed.
1 posted on 10/07/2007 10:12:32 PM PDT by Doofer
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The story has already been written. Imo.


2 posted on 10/07/2007 10:15:40 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Doofer
If he does well they'll say he underperformed because for someone who's an actor he should be so much better in front of cameras; if he does poorly they'll say he should stick to acting.

Of course, he came to acting long after he'd already had a career in law, but the MSM have some truly bizarre, elitist ideas about work. I've never been able to figure out how DeLay being a former exterminator was the subject of jokes. The MSM are a bunch of preppy wimps who like their workers downtrodden and far away from them. They don't LIKE the people they supposedly champion, and find the idea of non-journalistic or non-political work distasteful and suspicious.

3 posted on 10/07/2007 10:17:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonia. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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I am reminded of John F. Kennedy, who supposedly won the debates in 1960. Those who watched on television swore Kennedy won, and those who listened to the radio thought Nixon had won. The media swooned over Kennedy and the rest is history.

Among other things, Kennedy moved us into Vietnam and Johnson moved in over 550,000 troops. The media remembers the debate, and forgets about what their spin bought us.

Whether Thompson does better in the debates or not, it is most important what his core beliefs are. And I’d say that of all the candidates. The debates are okay, but in the current format, they are essentially meaningless.

The left does their best to corner the Republican candidates on issues important to the left. Frankly I’d rather see the cancidates give a chance to make opening comments, then tear into each other at will.

It would be a lot more revealing.


4 posted on 10/07/2007 10:21:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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How about if Thompson turns the tables and asks Mr. Softball about the unchallenged lies made on his show when Mugs Murtha condemned the Marines of Kilo Company?


5 posted on 10/07/2007 10:21:44 PM PDT by cookcounty (Murtha, World's Dumbest Marine Officer, --He can't find Okinawa on a map..)
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I want to elect the best conservative to be POTUS.

Not the best debater.

Go Fred go!


6 posted on 10/07/2007 10:22:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees!!!)
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Susan Marie Saulny, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Stanley M. Saulny of New Orleans, was married there yesterday to Dr. James Burton Snyder Jr., a son of Mr. and Mrs. Snyder of Lindenhurst, N.Y. The Rev. Perry F. Henry performed the ceremony at Holy Name of Jesus Roman Catholic Church.

The bride, 27, will continue to use her name professionally. She is a reporter for The New York Times. She graduated from Yale. Her mother, Linda Saulny, is the school social worker at Marion Abramson High School in New Orleans. Her father, a pharmacist, retired as the manager of a Walgreens drugstore there.

The bridegroom, 36, is a psychiatrist and the founder and director of Long Island Psychiatric, an outpatient center in Roslyn, N.Y. He is also a clinical assistant professor at the New York University School of Medicine. He received bachelor’s and medical degrees from the State University at Stony Brook, N.Y. His father retired as a member of the crime-scene search unit of the Nassau County Police Department in Mineola, N.Y.

The couple met on Sept. 11, 2001, at ground zero, where Ms. Saulny was reporting for The Times and Dr. Snyder was giving medical aid.


7 posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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Sounds like Fred Thompson scares the Hillary camp spitless. Of course, all of the GOP candidates I’ve seen so far are articulate, and capable of thinking on their feet (if you can call what Ron Paul does “thinking”). Which means that any one of them would destroy her Thighness in a real debate (no softballs, no pony tail guys and no Oprah clones). I like Thompson’s idea of meeting the presumptive Democrat nominee in a “Lincoln-Douglas” open forum debate, without the phony “impartial” moderator/interrogator. If Hillary had to participate in one such debate, with no one to feed her the questions and answers, she’d probably have a melt down, claim the GOP candidate had “verbally violated” her, and refuse to participate in any further debates.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:52 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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Fred08 - Contribute Now
9 posted on 10/07/2007 10:32:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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The guy used to be a lawyer. Of course he can debate.


10 posted on 10/07/2007 10:36:59 PM PDT by squidly
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Yep, and Ronald Reagan was a B movie actor who could only star with a chimp.


11 posted on 10/07/2007 10:42:15 PM PDT by norge
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To: Doofer
I'll be watching myself, not relying on the media pundits.

I want to "measure" how he'd do against Hillary...a challenge not to be misunderestimated.

12 posted on 10/08/2007 1:31:41 AM PDT by Mariner
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Well, we'll finally see for ourselves how he does. I'm looking forward to that. I've been very open minded on Fred Thompson, and he sounds very appealing. I hope he can deliver the goods. A good performance consistent with his conservative positions could make him the front runner.

A blunder could take the legs right out from under his campaign. He'll need to prove he can hold his own in a debate against clinton.

I may sound harsh, but I expect performance and results from anyone I support.

If he doesn't cut it, I may have to reconsider.

13 posted on 10/08/2007 2:22:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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We Freepers this last week have a question or two that I would like to see asked.


14 posted on 10/08/2007 2:25:34 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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They don't LIKE the people they supposedly champion, and find the idea of non-journalistic or non-political work distasteful and suspicious.
"It is not the critic who counts . . . the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena - Theodore Roosevelt
Journalists don't agree with that, because they are the ones who do nothing but talk - and who promote themselves by tearing down the "doers" with criticism and second guessing. Journalists promote big government, and simultaneously attack the police and the military mercilessly even though they are sine qua non for government. And the reason is that journalists can't stand for anyone to get credit for actually doing something. To them, the credit belongs only to the critic.

15 posted on 10/08/2007 2:56:28 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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I like Thompson’s idea of meeting the presumptive Democrat nominee in a “Lincoln-Douglas” open forum debate, without the phony “impartial” moderator/interrogator. If Hillary had to participate in one such debate, with no one to feed her the questions and answers, she’d probably have a melt down
Exactly. And I fondly hope that someone prominent like Rush will make that challenge, and follow through with the "empty chair" debate when Hillary cowers in fear at the thought of spending hours in front of a live mike and a live opponent, without an "objective" moderator to protect her.

16 posted on 10/08/2007 3:02:01 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Well-put. That's one of the things the explosion of punditry on TV has done--make us a society of people who are so damned critical of those who do and fail, because of course WE weren't stupid enough to try something like that!

Pundits sit there and critique, and throw mud at those who have the nerve not to succeed. The only one who succeeds all the time is the one who never TRIES anything great--the critic.

17 posted on 10/08/2007 3:04:29 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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I wouldn’t even it call it critique - for that is constructive and positive. The criticize. Criticism is cheap, easy, and at times cowardly.


18 posted on 10/08/2007 3:27:16 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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They all seem to want to be Jon Stewart—i.e. someone who gets to say whatever he wants on TV every day before an adoring audience, and celebs love him.


19 posted on 10/08/2007 3:30:16 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist Bostonian. If I don't it respond it might be because you sent me something stupid)
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I have to agree. Jon Stewart is the epitome of the criticizing coward.


20 posted on 10/08/2007 3:57:05 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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