Bush: All religions pray to 'same God'

World Net Daily ^ | Oct 7, 2007 | wnd staff

[JSDude1]

President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.

[Prokopton]

If you look at it this way:

1. There is one God.

2. If you pray to a god and there is only one God then all pray to the same God.

I understand your logic and don't disagree with it. I believe in one God and I also believe in the Trinity although my simple mind does not truly understand. Other people have other concepts of God, to whom they pray. How God understands and accepts these prayers is beyond all of us and it is quite pretentious for us to make statements about how God listens to those who are non-Christian.

God loves all of us and is all forgiving and all merciful. I'll concern myself about how to gain his forgiveness and mercy for myself and won't speculate how he will show his love and mercy to others, including Muslims.

[Glenmerle]

This is why I’ve distanced myself from some evangelicals

I've never in my entire life met an evangelical who believes we all pray to the "same God." (They're usually accused of the opposite.) Not saying they're not out there, but they're few and far between.

[HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath]

All this religious confusion, weather its President Bush, or Sen. Obama, is just another confirmation we are living in modern Babel, a tower of religious confusion. That is why God is going to do a new thing, that will be so overpowering, there will be no doubt who Jesus is:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

[Frwy]

Jesus certainly is God. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Sprirt. The Trinity. Three persons in One. If your Bible doesn’t tell you this, throw it in the incinerator.

[elk]

Indeed, the divinity of Christ is in both the Old and New Testaments.

[fish hawk]

Actually He is. He is part of the triune God. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Also he is called God Incarnate, that is, God come in the flesh of man. He is not, however, Allah

[MHT]

Actually, one former Muslim told a group that the God of Mohammad was based upon the moon. Due to the heat of the desert, most Arabs traveled by the light of the moon at night to avoid the overwhelming heat of the day. Their concept of God is based upon moonlight. In the Judeo-Christian tradition, God is associated with light, not darkness. The sun as the source of light and life is not part of Islam. Similarly, just like the moon reflects the light of the sun, Islam is a reflection of the Judeo/Christian tradition, not an extension of it. That is why there are crescent moons on the roofs of the mosques and in the flags of Islamic countries.

In fact, "Al-ilah" was the name of the Moon God--which got shortened to "Allah".

[endthematrix]

I’ll take that as a no.

[TChad]

We all chop off heads to please the same God.

[Colorado Cowgirl]

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.
John 1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
I hope this helps.

[Frwy]

God saves all people who accept the work of His Son, Jesus, on the cross. Period. Salvation has nothing to do with good people. There are no good people. Just saved sinners and unsaved sinners. It’s so simple folks. If it took being good to be saved, Heaven would be looking like the bank parking lot on Sunday.

[EDINVA]

sorry, I don’t understand your question ?

[MacDorcha]

Jesus isn’t Mohammad. You are correct.

Now... is Allah Yahwen, and Yahweh God?

They have roots tying them.

It’s more of a philosophical question than a religious one.

Is there only One God? Is this God THE Alpha and THE Omega? The everything?

Is this God the source of all life and goodness?

In that philosophical sense, Bush is correct.

Or am I to understand that God is broken down to such details as a Catholic god and a protestant God?

Way I see it, all eyes taken from God can only be cast upon Satan. Whether Satan is a suicide belt or a heroine needle or even a video game... well, that’s for wisdom to decide.

Again though, just sophistry prattle.

[cynwoody]

*sigh* Just when I though we had finally broken him of calling it a religion of peace...

There is no god but the Moon God, and a pedophile is his Ventriloquist.

[elk]

Not to be indelicate, but the Masons love their obelisks...

One can't drive in Old Town Alexandria, past the George Washington Memorial Mason Temple, and not notice its obvious phallic-ness. Ditto on the Washington Monument.

A small amount of research on them should net you some info on their beliefs. If you've ever visited a Scottish Rite website, say, in the Midwest, they sound very Christianesque, but the substance is like Bush's "we all pray to the same god" if you read carefully. Just my observations.

Think about Pelosi's quote that she prays for President Bush often -- gotta wonder who in the world she's praying to -- I thought Dagon lost it when the Ark of the Covenant was stolen by the Philistines... now that's a wild story. But I digress.

[RetiredArmyMajor]

Cvengr wrote:

The Old Testament is great Scripture. That Crimson thread of redemption flows through all of the major and minor Prophets.

. . . . .

You’re so right. Today I was studying the Book of Ruth and how she approached Boaz on the threshingfloor and uncovered the feet of this potential kinsman-redeemer. Then correlated it to to the story in Luke of the harlot who the feet of Jesus, the ultimate kinsman-Redeemer, with perfume and tears while he broke bread with the judgmental and hypocritcal Pharisee Simon in that “worthy’s” house.

The first is a beautiful framework to understand the practical NT application in the second. And a lesson for all of us.

[Lily4Jesus]

Amen, amen and amen!!!!!

........”Know the truth and the TRUTH will set you free...” JESUS IS THE TRUTH.

[Prokopton]

God saves all people who accept the work of His Son, Jesus, on the cross. Period. Salvation has nothing to do with good people. There are no good people. Just saved sinners and unsaved sinners. It’s so simple folks. If it took being good to be saved, Heaven would be looking like the bank parking lot on Sunday.

I take it you do not believe in the New Testament. Jesus spent a lot of his time on earth teaching us how we were to act, how to be "good people", so that we could join him in heaven. How many are there, we don't know. We do know that, even if you accepted Jesus as your savior, if you did not recognize him in other people and treat them as Jesus taught, he will not recognize you to his Father.

[geopyg]

“The Old Testament is great Scripture. That Crimson thread of redemption flows through all of the major and minor Prophets.”

My wife had mentioned to the preacher that she was reading through the Bible and was almost to the end of the Old Testament. He asked her what her general thought on it was. She said “how much God loves us”. Most people (without reading the OT) would say the “God of the Old Testament is “vengeful, mean and nasty”.

[endthematrix]

Is God an Elephant? (universalist parable)

There are four blind men who discover an elephant. Since the men have never encountered an elephant, they grope about, seeking to understand and describe this new phenomenon. One grasps the trunk and concludes it is a snake. Another explores one of the elephant’s legs and describes it as a tree. A third finds the elephant’s tail and announces that it is a rope. And the fourth blind man, after discovering the elephant’s side, concludes that it is, after all, a wall.

God is an Elephant?
Examining the Blind Men and the Elephant
philosophic argument in philosophy of religion
http://www.everystudent.com/wires/elephant.html

The Blind Men and the Elephant in Islamic thought.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/blind_men_and_elephant/Sufi.html