Ron Paul on Alex Jones 9/11 Truther Show Today (Have at it, Ministry of Silly Explanations)

Ron Paul Forums ^ | Oct. 5, 2007 | Ron Paul Forums

[lormand]

Ron Paul will be on the Alex Jones Show Today between 12pm and 3pm EST tune in and listen!!!!!!

http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.asx

[Designer]

"By the "used to be a liberal, but now is a conservative" definition, I am a neocon.."

No, you're not a "neocon".

You might be a recent convert, but the common idea of conservative does not apply. If you check the origin of that term you will probably not want to included in that group.

Or possibly you do.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

So it seems to me that these supporters of Ron Paul are the same sort of ignorant and naive malcontents who typically back Democrat candidates.

[Designer]

"Which is now proven to be false due to his now multiple appearances on this show."

Wow! That is a stretch!

Even a "truther" could not stretch logic like that!

Why couldn't it just be something simple, such as; Ron Paul wanting national exposure to speak to the people?

THAT I would believe.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Yep. Given a few more years of insanity and then a crew cut...

[Mr. Silverback]

("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007

ROTFLMBO!!! Bravo to you both!

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

Maybe George Noory?

[Designer]

"..alien conspirators...send out mind control waves.."

You people are absolutely looney.

And here all this time I thought the Paulies were supposed to be the ones who are crazy.

Just shows to go ya, I guess.

One man's crazy is another man's looney.

[Mr. Silverback]

Go ahead and add me to that list. The Prawn Paul threads with the Baghdad Bob explanations for his behavior are some of the best entertainment on FR.

[Mr. Silverback]

Would they also have a cabinet position called “Ministry of Silly Walks”?

Seriously, dig this: The Monty Python theme song is actually called "the Liberty Bell March," and IIRC it was written by Sousa himself. Well, the Marine Band played it during the warmup to the 1992 Clinton Inauguration. I think that's very, very appropriate.

[Mr. Silverback]

but the staffer that set up these appearances should be fired...it really damages Paul's credibility

A person who can't figure that out has no place in the Congress, much less the Oval Office.

[thecabal]

Paul has said that he does not believe the attack on the World Trade Center was a part of a government conspiracy and has explicity denied any association with the “9/11 Truth Movement.”

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Even a "truther" could not stretch logic like that!

Who's the one stretching logic? He denies any association with the Troofers, but then he repeatedly appears as a guest on the radio program of the King of Troofers. How can you even think that this is not hypocritical BS?

[Mr. Silverback]

I'm sure it gets quite tiresome for them, bless their tin-foil-coated heads.

Lady, I really love being a member of this forum with you. :-)

[Mr. Silverback]

we need to ask ourselves if, after 42 years of mass immigration (and the obvious dramatic changes in America), its not time for a breather from all immigration...legal and illegal

Only if we're willing to take a break from the legality of abortion...and maybe even birth control.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Took that seriously, did ya?

Are you off of your meds? Are you having any thoughts?

[bray]

The Ron Pat Paulistas pretty much explain how the Bob Jones thing happened. Some people will do whatever it takes to follow a whackjob.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[governmentstillsucks]

You might be a recent convert, but the common idea of conservative does not apply. If you check the origin of that term you will probably not want to included in that group.

Or possibly you do.

So just what is a conservative? In an historical context, how would you define Western conservativism?

[traviskicks]

Both of those two have the exact same positions as Ron Paul on the war. Surrender.

The difference in foreign policy views between liberals (sheehan, chavez, pelosi) and so called 'traditional conservatives' (jefferson, taft, buchanan, paul) could not, IMO, be more stark.

Liberals have little understanding of what make this country great, they tend to think we stole our wealth from other nations. They think the world's problems stem from the United States, that things would be better if our sovereignty would be restrained by the ever 'benevolent' United Nations, that Israel is an aggressive and 'warmongering' nation. They kiss up to socialist dictators, and appease the rest, having a near pathological fear any violence whatsoever, are antiwar at any and all cost, and yet favor 'humanitarian' military interventions in backwater hell holes like Somalia, Bosnia, and Darfur. They believe a weak US military will make the world safer, and leave more $$$ for social spending and planning, that we should get weapons out of space, disarm, and discard our nukes. History has not been kind to their bankrupt ideas; they are ideologically and morally adrift.

Traditional conservative, aka noninterventionist, foreign policy, espoused nowadays by paul, buchanan, and others begin with exactly the opposite premises! They believe in the greatest and goodness of the United States, that the United States is the 'shinning city' on a hill. They recognize our strength comes from our liberty, from small, not large government and not from expensive and expansive foreign policy, that government intentions in foreign policy backfire just as frequently as government intentions in domestic wealth redistributions or other socialistic schemes. To hell with the UN they say, to hell with the United States as a policemen or a nation builder, to hell with the billions upon billions in humanitarian and military aid we waste on corrupt dictatorships, and on keeping our troops based all around the world, and to hell with us worrying about the stability, poverty, and democracy, of every third world rotting chunk of earth. They believe that peace in the middle east would likely exist today if Israel was not held back and had not, in effect, abdicated its sovereignty to us. They are ‘ferocious isolationists’, not reckless pacifists like those on the left, they do not favor giving up our nuclear weapons, they favor a strong defense, and a crushing response with a total declaration of war if attacked.

So, IMO, the fact that both liberals and traditional conservatives want us out of Iraq is a complete coincidence, as they are arriving at said conclusion from complete opposite reasonings and disagree on nearly every other aspect of foreign policy.

Thus, while it is certainly understandable to disagree with any and all aspects of the traditional conservative philosophy and its application, I think their views deserve respect. To lump them together with the apt described ‘antiwar moonbat left’, is fallacious.

[governmentstillsucks]

So, IMO, the fact that both liberals and traditional conservatives want us out of Iraq is a complete coincidence, as they are arriving at said conclusion from complete opposite reasonings and disagree on nearly every other aspect of foreign policy.

I have to say that you posted thoughtfully. There is a certain knee-jerk tendency of some on the current right that, by instinct, lumps groups together. Believe me--I'm a Buchananite-Tancredoac-defeatist-ultra-right-wing-left-wing-fascist loon by sheer slander over the years.

If Ron Paul could distance himself enough from his many kook supporters--and I mean genuine kooks, not those who happen to disagree with conservativism d'jour--he would have much better footing today. I know it's hard to tell your supporters to get lost, but the truth is a lot of very crazy and hateful people are backing Dr. Paul right now, and him going on conspiracy-oriented forums doesn't help the cause.

Go back a couple of years and look at the Ron Paul references on the dozens of immigration threads on FR that are accessible. They were all positive.

[Mr. Silverback]

I couldn’t make out what it was or what it said initially, but when we stopped at the red light, it was clearly a John Kerry For President ‘04 sticker. But, but, but... how can this be?!

You were clearly hallucinating, comrade. Report for re-education immediately.

[weegee]

Oh good! Two nutcases on one show!

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