The Values Test [Dobson Will Back Third-Party if Giuliani is Nominated]

The New York Times ^ | October 4, 2007 | JAMES C. DOBSON

[Soft Bigotry]

After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.

The other issue discussed at length concerned the advisability of creating a third party if Democrats and Republicans do indeed abandon the sanctity of human life and other traditional family values. Though there was some support for the proposal, no consensus emerged.

Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent or the other leaders gathered in Salt Lake City, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed.

[chaos_5]

Then get behind Fred! Jeezz guys, it’s not like Rudy is the only guy on the ticket.

[Soft Bigotry]

Didn’t he already meet with Fred?
Besides, I think he’s addressing a what-if scenario here.

[Dustbunny]

I think that Dobson must be a closet Democrat if he pulls a stunt like this.

If he backs any candidate other than a Republican he will be pulling a Ross Perot and giving the election to Hillary Clinton.

[HockeyPop]

A deal will be cut giving Dobson oval office access and veto power when it comes to future Sup Ct nominations. In other news, Islam continues it’s march...

[Brimack34]

I guess he wants 3 more liberals on the SC.

[chaos_5]

Yeah, I see your point, but it seems like they are spending more time complaining about Rudy that backing a good candidate like Fred.

There has been a slew of articles proclaimimg evangelical dissatisfaction and the threat of defection. I would rather see them standing behind a candidate than threatening what if scenarios.

Hell, if Rudy gets the nod, I think I'll write in Fred/Hunter.

[Dustbunny]

Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter or Duncan Hunter/Fred Thompson would be an excellent ticket!!

[ellery]

I agree with Dobson that we shouldn’t put electability calculations above principle. I support Thompson because I believe he’s the best candidate in the race — although I think he is electable, I would support him even if he were in the second tier.

[cherry]

who the heck cares anything about what this guy says.....

we Christians are becoming the wimpiest bunch of whiners.....we don't get our way we would rather have the whole entire country ruined and infiltrated and controlled by Satanist then to either shut the heck up or support the most reasonable, conservative, rational, logical and respected person out there and that is not the Hitler.....

[Graybeard58]

Dobson is way off base about Thompson but he's right about Rudy. I will vote for Thompson in the primary and pray that he wins because I will never vote for Rudy. Flame away.

[SoConPubbie]

"Didn’t he already meet with Fred?"

No, according to Fred, they have never spoken to each other.

[Soft Bigotry]

I wonder if Dobson isn’t testing his own political power here;
maybe he wants to run at the top of the ticket of this third party?

[SoConPubbie]

How you can call yourself a Christian and then proclaim you would be willing to vote for Rudy is beyond me.

Any candidate that believes it is a woman’s right to choose to murder her unborn child, as Rudy does, is not fit to be a leader or a softball team, much less the leader of the US.

As a Christian, your moral principles are supposed to be your first priority even to the death. Otherwise, you are definitely not living a Christ-like life.

You might want to rethink either your proclamation of being a Christian, or your political position.

Your choice!

[frankiep]

Unreal.

IMO, the only way we can lose the election in ‘08 is due to single issue voters not getting what they want. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Soft Bigotry]

Dobson says Thompson ‘not for me’
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57747

[SoConPubbie]

Your right.

This single issue WOT voters who will sell out all their other principles to elect someone, Rudy, who will destroy the Republican party for generations to come.

The same Rudy who is wrong on:

1. Abortion
2. Homosexual Agenda
3. Judges
4. Gun Rights
5. Week on fiscal issues and Federalism

I know that is not what you meant, however, it is the reality of the situation and most people on this site are really, REALLY tired of people misrepresenting both Rudy and principled conservatives.

SoConPubbie

[SoConPubbie]

Try to stay on point.

You said they had met.

Fred says they have not.

I don’t care what Dobson has to say if he can’t even have the decency to sit down and talk to the man before he starts making statements like this.

It lacks a certain Christ-like quality.

[Soft Bigotry]

Relax; I asked if they had met/talked, I didn’t say I knew for sure.

[frankiep]

see my post #15.

Look, I’m completely against abortion too but there is no way that I would let that be a deal breaker in voting for the Republican nominee if it turns out to be Rudy. I wonder if people here realize that our current president is against abortion yet that fact has done nothing to make it illegal. In an election as important as this one you would think that people would look at the big picture vis-a-vie what would happen if the White House is won by the Communists.