Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC
Sure, something like Ross Perot did. 8 years of Clinton.
Care to explain how that works because I certainly don't understand how voting pro-abortion whether R or D saves any babies?
Here’s the deal folks: nominate Giuliani and practically guarantee a win by the left.
I wish there were stats on the number of times the GOP has nominated a “moderate” or that a GOP candidate shifted to the left during the campaign with the result that the leftist won. As has been pointed out over and over again people will vote for the real thing rather than a watered-down version. And in those cases where the “moderate” won we have almost always been saddled with a RINO just as likely to back the left as his own party (Snowe, Collins, Chaffee, Arnold, Hagel, ad nauseum).
Conservatives tend to win when they run as conservatives. Rush has been pointing this out for years.
I don’t give two tinkles for the party designation. What does the candidate stand for? Does he have a philosophy that I can agree with for the most part? I used to vote Democrat but I started voting Republican because the GOP and its candidates held a philosophy that coincided with my own on far more points than the left. Republicans like Giuliani hold philosophies that I cannot support and that I cannot vote for.
If Giuliani is what the electorate wants in a president then the conservative movement has lost. That the move to the left is led by a Democrat or Republican is a trivial matter. It is the move itself that matters.
Well enough to put Hillary in office.
Idiotic or not, that is the lay of the land right now. If Rudy gets the nomination, there may not be a third party, but there will be a number of conservatives sitting out.
You are most likely correct that Pro-Lifers will not mount a third party..however, it is true that most (not all) pro-lifers will not vote for a pro-abortion canidate, nor will they vote for the democrat...however, the result is the same.
Care to place a wager on that if Rudy is the Republican nominee? Or, perhaps you mean the used-to-be Republicans before their party left them by nominating Giuliani won't form a new party, but vote for some existing 3rd party.
Don’t forget the Ron Paul cult.
If it’s Rudy911 vs. Hitlery, we’ve already lost. SoCons then have a choice: lose only the election (Hitlery wins), or lose the election and the GOP (Rudy911 wins).
I’ll minimize my losses and deal with Her Thighness, and start trying to rebuild the GOP and win in 2012.
There is no justification to vote for Rudy, none. Period, end of story. No matter how much you hate Clinton, it does not justify sacrificing everything at Rudy911’s altar. I will not be terrorized into voting for Rudy911.
Then how did George Bush win in 2000? I’ve read enumerable times on FR recently that Bush wasn’t considered conservative at the time(except as a “compassionate” conservative). He was clearly less conservative than John McCain in 2000, and could clearly be classified as a Republican moderate at the time.
That headline should read:
“14% Of Conservatives Favor Assisted Suicide”
>>Its proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy cant win.<<
Yes, precisely.
It's one of the strongest weapons the Democrats have and they play it perfectly every election.
Say hello to President Clinton in 2009.
BTW, Is THIS political drek your FIRST CHOICE?
He is squirming constantly and misrepresenting his Hillary-like views on Guns, Abortion, Sanctuary, Federalizing Education, Feminizing the Military, Global UN Control, and oh, yeah, the NAU and NAFTA Superhighway...
I have already decided. I am not voting for him. Not I "don't think I'll vote for him."
I won't.
No more "lesser of two evils."
That is just evil in and of itself. And those who wish to foist evil on us, as the 'lesser' are just accomplices to evil.
Don't be such an accomplice. Now is when and where you can make a difference. Support the bona fide conservatives.
HELP US. DON'T DESERT CONSERVATISM. STAND FOR SOMETHING!
Show some back-bone.
“Its proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy cant win.”
Ditto.
Can you say hello President Clinton. thanks to the 27% of Christians who would rather have a communist dictator, than Rudy.
Here’s the deal that will be cut: Rudy will get the Christian right once he agrees to give them veto power over the selection of the next Sup Ct justice.
Just as I tell people I am a Christian, not a Baptist, I am a conservative, not a Republican. If the Republicans leave the conservatives, they can go back to obscurity where they were for 60 years. I won't kill children, give up my gun rights, or bless homosexual marriage, just to get a tax cut.( And I don't think Rooty is all that good on taxes).
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