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Bishop: No Communion for Giuliani
AP via SFGate ^
| 10/3/7
Posted on 10/03/2007 1:19:30 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: Continental Soldier
Donna, I think the Church would fast change its directives if told it was to lose its tax-exempt status and, also, have to pay taxes on all the real estate it owns. Maybe its time for that. If the Church wants to dabble in intimidation, it should be prepared to face the same from those it seeks to frighten. No? :)First of all revoking the tax exempt status of churches without revoking the same for other charitable organizations of a secular nature is unconstitutional facially. Second of all any call for more taxes in state coffers is a lefty loon call. And finally the Church and it's relationship to it's members is none of your business or the states business.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:35:12 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Coleus; firebrand
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:35:48 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: calcowgirl
Remember, according to Rudy, freedom is all about authority.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:35:49 PM PDT
by
Campion
To: Continental Soldier
Donna, I think the Church would fast change its directives if told it was to lose its tax-exempt status and, also, have to pay taxes on all the real estate it owns. Maybe its time for that. If the Church wants to dabble in intimidation, it should be prepared to face the same from those it seeks to frighten. Exactly what part of Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof is unclear to you?
You can take away our tax exemptions if you want. Just make sure you take away the tax exemptions of every other religious organization in the country. And, while you're at it, having to support Planned Parenthood with my tax dollars is repugnant to me and a direct violation of my freedom to practice my religion, so take away their tax funding while you're at it.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:39:21 PM PDT
by
Campion
To: Campion
Yep. I remember.
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every
single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion
about what you do and how you do it." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, March 17, 1994
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:44:24 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: jwalsh07
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:45:28 PM PDT
by
Running On Empty
(The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
To: Campion
You said it for me.
That’s 2 in a row.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:47:43 PM PDT
by
Running On Empty
(The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
To: SAMS
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:48:58 PM PDT
by
Running On Empty
(The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
To: SmithL
Even Rudy would not have the happy rocks to try and receive Communion. Has Cardinal Egan given RG Communion?
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:49:41 PM PDT
by
Fred
("What is it that makes liberals think the best way to help someone is to punish them" FDT)
To: joebuck
Not what Paul was talking about - he was talking about not sharing communion with the poor, and getting drunk on the wine.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:52:53 PM PDT
by
naturalized
("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
To: calcowgirl; TommyDale; Liz
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, March 17, 1994 Needs to be boldly repeated over and over.
Frightening. He must be Satan's Sister. Or else its the Hildebeast in drag.
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:54:41 PM PDT
by
dforest
(Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
To: indylindy
It’s on my profile page—and NOT because I agree with it!
“Frightening” is an understatement!
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posted on
10/03/2007 3:59:43 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: Continental Soldier
The Catholic church has the same right to speak concerning public policy issues as any other group, and the exercise of that right is not "intimidation of voters".
Cordially,
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posted on
10/03/2007 4:00:57 PM PDT
by
Diamond
To: SmithL
Burke, the Archbishop of St. Louis, was asked by The St. Louis Post-Dispatch if he would...Ah, the probing for a hypothetical to stir up controversy. Yet another shallow stunt from the decaying news media.
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posted on
10/03/2007 4:01:47 PM PDT
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: SmithL
Rudy’s been divorced. Why would he even think about going?
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posted on
10/03/2007 4:09:52 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
(Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
To: Continental Soldier
Your job has been and still is the salvation of souls, one at a time, if necessary,. . . Catholic politicians are "souls" too. It would be a very serious sin for a politician like Giuliani to take Holy Communion. The archbishop is trying to spare him from adding that sin to his already long list.
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posted on
10/03/2007 4:33:17 PM PDT
by
madprof98
("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
To: naturalized
Not what Paul was talking about - he was talking about not sharing communion with the poor, and getting drunk on the wine. That sounds like it came from the Episcopal Bible. Did they stick that in when they got rid of the parts about sodomy?
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posted on
10/03/2007 4:36:14 PM PDT
by
madprof98
("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
To: Continental Soldier
Yes, I agree. Those clergy, right or left, who are trying to do in this or that candidate are seen as medlers and do not speak well for their position. Better to affirm their position and leave the voters decide on the outcome.
To: calcowgirl; stephenjohnbanker; indylindy; TommyDale; SoConPubbie; jedward; Liz; pissant; narses; ...
The Stop Rudy ping list!
E-mail/ping me if you want on/off the list! SPREAD THE WORD!!!
Catholic Church holds true to its Faith, Rudophiles say, “shut the hell up, Catholic Church!” Any comments, my Conservative brethren?
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posted on
10/03/2007 5:38:10 PM PDT
by
TitansAFC
("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
To: Continental Soldier
I happen to agree with your argument 100 percent....especially “not the control of government, not the intimidation of voters and not the policy-making of a secular government.”
Those who cheer now are those who have cursed Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and others for attempting to influence domestic policies from a church pulpit. Bill Clinton was served Communion in a Catholic Church. Rudy should already know he cannot receive. It should not be an issue.
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posted on
10/03/2007 5:42:24 PM PDT
by
FryingPan101
(Who will lead?)
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