Posted on 10/02/2007 12:49:14 PM PDT by traderrob6
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson has brought in more than 11 and a-half million dollars over four months.
The numbers are the first to be reported since he formally entered the race last month.
Two Republicans familiar with the fundraising by the actor and former senator say the amount includes more than three million dollars raised in June, before the third-quarter fundraising period began. The two Republicans also say checks are still being counted from more than 70,000 contributors.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
11.5 - 3 = 8.5 for the quarter. Do the other candidates get to include their June numbers in the totals for the third quarter?
I’ve seen enough reporting on Osama’s and Hitlery’s numbers, but how does this compare to the other Republicans. And exclude Romney’s donations to himself. That shouldnt count anyway.
There’s speculation Rudy has 10 million, but he hasn’t reported yet. Given he fired his fundraiser a week ago, it’s safe to say whatever he did didn’t meet the campaign’s expectations..which were 20 million.
Romney has numbers flying everywhere with no one really sure what he brought in, and what he contributed and his campaign hasn’t provided a figure for people to even debate. the highest I saw mentioned was 15 million, on the low end I saw 12 million. who knows?
With Fred less is more because he does not seem to be in the position of having to trade campaign donations for percentage points in the opinion polls. If the presidency is determined by who raises the most dollars instead the of electoral college, then the MSM can complete its wet dream now and officially declare Hillary the winner.
From what I’ve read Julie Annie pulled in about 10 Mil, Romney about 15 Mil which icludes 6.5 Mil self loan (15-6.5 =8.5 net) and McCain collected 5 Mil.
Hopefully this will put an end to all of the misreporting of these figures by all the “you know who’s” over the last few days.
Sept. 30 was the end of the fundraising quarter for federal candidates, along with other political committees. Updated presidential numbers will appear on OpenSecrets.org after Oct. 15, the FEC’s deadline for campaign finance reports. Congressional data is projected to go online in late October.
This is the next big test for Thompson: can he organize with competent people in the early states so that he can capitalize on his popularity with actual poll wins. If he doesn't, his money will dry up and it will be a Guiliani-Romney race.
I agree...that's what the race will come down to, a head to head race between Fred and Mitt.
Don't kid yourself. The Republican nominee will need to be able to raise enough money so that he doesn't have to accept federal matching funds. If he accepts matching funds, Hillary will shred him beyond recognition in April, May, and June and the race will be over before the convention. If you don't believe me, just ask Bob Dole.
You must mean the Axis of Desperation.
Only if they whine about it like a little child.
Congratulations! You've automatically qualified!
I am not so sure I would go that far. Guiliani, if he fares reasonably well in the first few races, has demonstrated the ability to raise lots of money (though apparently did not do well enough this quarter) and should have good organization building throughout the US. Remember how he campaigned relentlessly not only for Bush in 2004, but for scores of congressmen and governors throughout the US in 2004 and 2006 races? He has enormous personal and political capital to spend, including lots of on-the-ground networks of these congressmen whom are indebted to him. What I don't know is how organized and disciplined he has been in cashing those checks in a way to structurally set himself up for the long haul.
But on the pub side, the race within the race is between Romney and Thompson. Romney has staked out Thompson's ground, which is the conservative one where most of the base is. He is much better organized (at this point) than Thompson and is poised to win the first two primaries. I would be shocked if anyone but Romney wins Iowa and NH. The race there is for second place. If Thompson can come in second in most of the early primaries and win one or two, Guiliani's money will probably dry up and he will not be able to stay competitive. This is the best scenario for Thompson, because if the perception among conservatives is that it is between Thompson and Romney, then I think most will choose Thompson since most of his positions on important social issues are clear and he has a pretty consistent voting record on those. Romney will be viewed more cautiously by conservatives, but I think most of the undecided pubs will give him a fair listen (I know I will). If I am Guiliani, the best scenario would be for both Thompson and Romney to stay in the race just as long as possible if I can come in 1st or 2nd in the early states. The conservative votes will split between Thompson and Romney leaving Guiliani to pick up lots of delegates.
Thompson needs to come in second in either Iowa or NH, and win SC (I think those are the first three). If he can come in second in both Iowa and NH and win SC, I think he can go on to win the nomination. But it won't be easy. Romney is a very good politician and is extremely disciplined and organized. Personally, I am waiting to see if the ARG poll showing the Romney surge in SC is an outlier or if it holds through some of the other polls and/or after Thompson starts putting ads on the air there. If he is as organized in SC as he is in NH and Iowa, Romney may just wipe the floor with everyone and be the nominee by March.
I take a different view. I think most of the presidential elections in the age of television have been decided during the debates. Two candidates appear on stage and the country decides which one appears to be more Presidential. Carter won because of the backlash of Ford's pardon of Nixon. In the case of Clinton getting the Presidency in the first place it was because Bush ran a terrible campaign against Dukakis and got stuck with making a promise that he was not man enough to keep. Dole could have ran the perfect campaign, but there were just too many Americans who did not see him as an upgrade to the Rapist-in-Chief. If it is Thompson against Clinton, the less Thompson campaigns and the less he says the better, wait until the debates, and let the undecided swing voters who decide the election anyway, determine which of the two on the stage appears more Presidential. That is Fred's strength against Hillary, less is more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The ASG poll is bullsh*t. Even Romney’s SC campaign manager thinks so.
http://campaignsandelections.com/SC/articles/?ID=730
Rasmussen, a much more credible polling organization has Thompson leading SC over the same time period.
I think you are overrating Romney’s appeal. He’s been in 3-man beauty contest until Thompson entered. And in all polls he has had difficulty attaining significant numbers.
I think Thompson’s lead widens:
because as likely *primary* voters get to know him they cluster around him and he separates from the pack.
IMO Romney is an empty suit who will give more reasons than nought to vote Thompson.
But in the general election I will support any of them over Hillary. Even McCain. Now if Satan was running against her, I don't know; I would probably stay home or maybe even consider writing in Ron Paul...or maybe not.
Anyone listening? Anyone with a brain?
Fred announced his candidacy on Jay Leno's show in EARLY SEPTEMBER 2007!
The scumbag, liberal, dolt-headed media don't want you to know this simple fact:
Fred is raising more dollars/day than any other GOP candidate.
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