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Bryan Appleyard writes for the Sunday Times (London).
1 posted on 10/01/2007 9:46:45 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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“Soulism” ping!


2 posted on 10/01/2007 10:07:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: SirLinksalot
Beauregard uses evidence like near-death experiences (NDEs) and psi - or paranormal - effects and his own work on religious experience to show that the self or soul is not simply locked inside the skull.

Nothing says credibility like a heapin' helpin' of woo.

3 posted on 10/01/2007 10:16:46 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: SirLinksalot

“militant atheists” are curious folk. They remind me of “Organized Anarchists” or “Militant Peaceniks” or “Nihlist Bureaucrats”.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 10:31:51 AM PDT by glide625
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To: SirLinksalot

Science can only measure that which is measurable. We should not expect “science” to aid us in understanding or proving things that are easily proved by philosophy and intellect. A great book, which explains Aquinas, is Theology And Sanity by FJ Sheed. It’s the only book you’ll ever need besides the Bible.


5 posted on 10/01/2007 10:37:25 AM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: SirLinksalot

bump for later...


6 posted on 10/01/2007 10:44:49 AM PDT by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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To: SirLinksalot

bump


7 posted on 10/01/2007 10:47:17 AM PDT by VOA
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“Above all, he shows that our current science is provisional and as far from answering final questions as science has always been.”

Not true. Hawkins some time ago pointed to nanotubes unique to brain cells that appear to support some interesting quantum phenomena. Two scientists (names slip my mind) recently built on his work and are positing a physical basis for a soul that due to certain distemporal aspects of QM could be considered eternal.

In other words, both the physicalists and the soulist may be both right and wrong.


8 posted on 10/01/2007 11:06:09 AM PDT by piytar
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I’m not a “materialist”, myself. But. And it is a big ‘but”, people who make other claims have an equal burden of proof to the materialists.

My belief in the supernatural, God, is solely because of faith. I know that, and recognize its weakness as an argument. However, my experiences inform me that it is true. They are basically non-repeatable, though, and materialists could offer other explanations, including statistically improbably coincidences.

It works for me, though, and if it doesn’t work for you, that is between you and God. Or not.

9 posted on 10/01/2007 11:24:18 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: SirLinksalot
great. the sooner they think they can identify the soul, the sooner they can profile it, stuff the profile into a database, and sell a subscription to insurance companies, lawyers, divorcing spouses, etc. etc (here you must use just the tiniest appendage of your imagination).

What a great time to be alive!

14 posted on 10/01/2007 2:49:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (life is like "a bad Saturday Night Live skit that is done in extremely bad taste.")
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To: SirLinksalot

Since the author referenced Kasparov and the ‘team’ that built the computer which beat him, I will state we already built a replica of us. The human mind is a computer. The processor controls the motor function and desires, the sub-conciense is a hard drive and interacts with the processor to attempt to understand the uknown. I am a Christian and could write a book of testimonies about the love and relationship of Christ. He is real, the heavenly Father is real.

We will evolve artificially thousands of times faster then our evolutionary pattern is designed. That statement is in the bible itself with numerous reference to our intelligence being increased in the last days. We have accelerated a proton faster then the speed of light. How long do you think it will be before we can entirely human store conciensness into that proton and explore, become multi-dimensional and exploring the universe in moments? Perhaps a hundred or two hundred years? We will be immortal. Perhaps it is not like many class Christians believe but that is what the Apostles saw when Christ transformed Himself, a being of light. Moses face was glowing when he got down the mountain after his encounter with God and had aged, obviously irradiated.

It is your personality and historic interactions that can be eternal and replicated as energy into whatever form desired. Manipulating matter is something man is just starting to become very good at. Christ analogy of a tree bearing good or bad fruit comes to mind. That is every good tree producing fruit is pruned. Every bad tree not producing fruit is thrown into the fire. Now before I hear mass flames about hell, my understanding of it may be a lot different then what you may think. In this case, I am simply stating that beings of energy whom created this universe will have no purpose for self-centered personalities (souls) and will not be stored or replicated. They are the good guy network and joining it is easy and free. Once a member, you will fight their common enemy, the 1/3 of the angelic host whom have decided they want what they did not build for themselves and at our species expense.


19 posted on 10/01/2007 6:13:44 PM PDT by quant5
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To: SirLinksalot

Another interesting development in the ongoing coming together of science and spirituality.


20 posted on 10/01/2007 10:30:49 PM PDT by TBP
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How does matter produce mind, how can it?

It's the other way around.

21 posted on 10/02/2007 1:23:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: SirLinksalot

bump


24 posted on 10/02/2007 9:19:06 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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