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”His boat took 188 enemy hits”: Another Kerry Swift Boat story surfaces
Original FReeper research citing Times-News (Burlington, NC) | 09/30/2007 | Fedora

Posted on 09/30/2007 1:28:52 PM PDT by Fedora

”His boat took 188 enemy hits”: Another Kerry Swift Boat story surfaces

By Fedora

During the 2004 campaign, John Kerry faced a firestorm of controversy over the events surrounding the awarding of his third Purple Heart and his Bronze Star. One inconsistency investigators noticed was that although military documents described Kerry’s Swift Boat team as facing “about 5000 meters” of enemy fire while travelling down a 75-yard-wide stretch of the Bay Hap River, there was no record of any bullet damage to craft or crew. Not publicized in 2004 was another discrepancy magnifying this issue: while Kerry was making his first Congressional run in fall 1972, newspapers around the country ran stories by reporter Tom Tiede claiming that Kerry’s boat “took 188 enemy hits”.

On October 25, 1972, page 18D of the Burlington, North Carolina Times-News carried an article by Tiede titled “John F. Kerry. . .The Candidate Who’s Got It All Going” which stated:

Kerry, you'll recall, is the thrice-wounded Vietnam naval veteran (his boat took 188 enemy hits) who brought GIs to the front lines of antiwar battle in 1969.

Versions of Tiede’s article echoing this “188 enemy hits” claim appeared in the Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune on October 25, 1972, in the Danville, Virginia Register on October 26, 1972, and in the Uniontown, Pennsylvania Evening Standard on November 1, 1972.

Declassified military records of the incident in question make no reference to these “188 enemy hits”, and what is recorded raises questions about how this story got started.

The incident involved five Swift Boats, which had moved near the Bay Hap River’s banks to maneuver around a fishing weir. Moving along the left side of the river was PCF-3 under Lieutenant Dick Pees, followed by PCF-23 under Lieutenant Jack Chenoweth. On the right side were PCF-94 under Kerry’s command and PCF-43 under Lieutenant Donald Droz. Trailing behind both pairs of boats near the center of the river was PCF-51 under Lieutenant Larry Thurlow, the patrol’s mission commander. Also travelling with the patrol were members of a Special Forces team.

As the boats were passing the weir, a mine went off. Discrepancies surround what damage was caused by the explosion, as well as whether or not the explosion was followed by enemy fire.

The Naval paperwork on the incident was probably filed by Kerry, judging by Kerry’s 1971 Senate testimony and the recollection of other Swift Boat veterans. Additional paperwork for Special Forces was probably filed by Lieutenant James Rassmann, who often performed this duty for his unit.

The after-action report released during the 2004 campaign describes a mine going off “UNDER PCF-3” and “CLOSE ABOARD PCF-94”. Elsewhere it states, “MINE DETONATED UNDER PCF-3. . .TWO OTHER MINE EXPLOSIONS”. However, the boat damage report lists no damage to PCF-3 but severe damage to PCF-94, which is described as having its wiring, generator, steering, and bilge pump in inoperable condition. Yet despite describing PCF-94 as being in this condition, the report states that “94 TOWED PCF 3 AS BUCKET BRIGADE CONTROLLED FLOODING”.

The after-action report describes mine explosion injuries to several crew members of PCF-3, but Kerry is the only one on PCF-94 listed with mine explosion injuries. There are no descriptions of bullet damage to any craft or crew.

The after-action report and casualty report state that “KERRY SUFFERED SHRAPNEL WOUNDS IN HIS LEFT BUTTOCKS AND CONTUSIONS ON HIS RIGHT FOREARM WHEN A MINE DETONATED CLOSE ABOARD PCF-94”. The after-action report characterizes Kerry’s right forearm injury as “MINOR”. The recommendation for Kerry’s Bronze Star--submitted by Kerry’s commanding officer Lieutenant Commander George Elliott and citing as an eyewitness Kerry’s second-in-command Del Sandusky--elaborates that a mine “detonated close aboard PCF-94, knocking 1st LT RASSMAN into the water and wounding LTJG KERRY in the right arm. . .LTJG KERRY. . .managed to pull LT RASSMAN aboard despite the painful wound in his right arm.” Kerry’s Bronze Star citation, originally written by Admiral Elmo Zumwalt and later revised under Secretary of the Navy John Lehman’s signature, substitutes for the above-mentioned contusions the detail that Kerry’s arm was “bleeding”.

However Kerry’s contemporary war journal, cited in a 2004 biography by Douglas Brinkley, indicates that his shrapnel injury actually came from an earlier rice-bin explosion, not the mine explosion. Prior to the mine explosion, Kerry’s Swift Boat team had assisted its Special Forces counterparts in clearing a village suspected of harboring Viet Cong. While the Green Berets were blowing up rice bins, “I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice bin explosions,” Kerry recorded.

Eyewitness accounts help explain some of the other discrepancies surrounding Kerry’s injuries. James Rassmann told the Boston Globe on August 6, 2004 that it was his understanding that Kerry’s arm wound was caused by the mine explosion throwing Kerry into his boat’s pilot house. Two witnesses to Kerry’s arm injury, Van Odell and Jack Chenoweth, contend that Kerry’s arm was not bleeding. This is consistent with the after-action and casualty reports’ characterization of Kerry’s arm injury as “contusions”. If Kerry’s arm had been hit by a bullet, it seems likely he would have suffered bleeding rather than contusions. This may suggest that later paperwork revisions characterizing his arm as “bleeding” were an attempt to reconcile his wound with the claim that his injury was caused by gunfire.

Discrepancies surrounding the mine explosion and resulting boat damage remain to be explained. Kerry and Rassmann gave inconsistent accounts about which boat was over the mine when it went off, contradicting other eyewitnesses and compounding the confusion in the documentary record.

In a eulogy for Swift Boat gunner Tom Belodeau in 1997, Kerry recalled that it was a mine exploding under his own boat which knocked a Green Beret overboard. But Brinkley’s 2004 biography recorded Kerry’s recollection that when Rassmann fell overboard he was sitting on another boat across the river, PCF-3. A Kerry campaign press release from January 17, 2004 introduced Rassmann as “traveling down the Bay Hap river in a boat behind Kerry’s when both were ambushed by exploding land mines and enemy fire coming from the shore.” However when Rassmann spoke to the Democratic National Convention in July 2004, he described his memory of eating a cookie on Kerry’s boat when a mine knocked him into the water.

At least four witnesses from other boats only recalled a mine going off under PCF-3, not under Kerry’s boat. In interviews PCF-3 skipper Dick Pees recalled sitting in his disabled boat, and PCF-23 skipper Jack Chenoweth recalled having to slam his engines into reverse to avoid running into PCF-3. PCF-23 gunner Van Odell and mission commander Larry Thurlow supported this account of the incident.

Witnesses were divided over whether there was hostile gunfire or rocket fire. Most of Kerry’s crewmates, two witnesses from other boats, and Rassmann recalled what they interpreted as hostile fire. At least ten witnesses from other boats disputed this.

Kerry’s PCF-94 crewmates David Alston, Eugene Thorson, Michael Medeiros, and Del Sandusky recalled hostile fire, as did Rassmann. Alston was later discredited when it was demonstrated that he was not present at events he claimed to have witnessed.

PCF-43 gunner Wayne Langhofer recalled, “There was a lot of firing going on, and it came from both sides of the river.” PCF-51 crewman Robert Lambert also interpreted bullets he saw striking the water as coming from hostile fire.

However, Pees, Thurlow, Chenoweth, Odell, PCF-43 gunner Robert Hornberger, and others present recalled no hostile fire. Odell elaborated,

As the 3 boat passed the weir on the narrowest part of the river it was hit by a mine, which lifted it completely out of the water. I immediately began firing my twin 50’s towards river left to suppress any fire. I fired a couple of hundred rounds and realized we were not receiving any return fire from either bank. The other boats quit firing and we commenced rescue operations for the PCF-3 crew and boat. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FIRE FROM EITHER BANK. Our boat picked up members of the disabled PCF-3.

Others present similarly recalled firing at the banks but observing no return fire.

Some witnesses reported that after the mine went off, Kerry’s boat accelerated ahead out of the kill zone for a few minutes before returning. This would have meant the other boats were shooting at the banks from behind Kerry’s boat as it sped away, which may help account for the difference in perception between Kerry’s crew members and other witnesses. Likewise, it is easy to see how Rassmann and Lambert could have interpreted the Swift Boat team’s precautionary fire as enemy fire.

But whether there was enemy fire or not, it is difficult to conceive how Kerry could have pulled Rassmann out of the water while his boat was sustaining 188 enemy hits, or how his boat could have sustained 188 hits without suffering any recorded bullet damage, or how his boat could have helped tow PCF-3 after sustaining 188 hits. And it may be difficult for Kerry to explain why no reference to these 188 hits appeared in military records predating publicity for his 1972 Congressional campaign.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bronzestar; bs; huntsisdelicious; johnkerry; kerry; pompoustwitalert; purpleheart; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; tryhuntsketchup; unfit; unfitforcommand
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To: kabar

Thanks for the analysis. My suspicion is that he withheld the medical report in order to keep the corpsman on the signature from being identified. Where he would’ve gotten an after-action report remains a puzzle to me. Presumably if Kerry saw action that day others in his unit did as well, so it might be informative to see if anyone else in Kerry’s unit engaged in any documented combat that day. If Kerry has a Purple Heart from a day when no one else in his unit engaged in combat, that would be close to a smoking gun, I should think.


141 posted on 10/01/2007 1:32:44 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

As I posted earlier -
“With every drink and every “Oh Wow” from the reporter the stories get stretched even further. His self inflicted booboo at Cam Rahn Bay wasn’t the result of his ignorance but the result of intense enemy action. The self inflicted wound down in the Delta caused by a few grains of rice hitting his butt become an intense enemy action.”


142 posted on 10/01/2007 1:35:38 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the links! That refreshes my memory a bit. The first link seems to imply Kerry first contacted Alston in 1996. Did they have any known contact before that? My real question is whether the Alston story goes back to the time of Tiede’s article in 1972 or whether it first appears much more recently in Kerry’s promotional material.


143 posted on 10/01/2007 1:36:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Interesting Times
The first link seems to imply Kerry first contacted Alston in 1996.

Or rather I should say, that the first public mention of Kerry's contact with Alston seems to be from 1996. On closer reading I see it does allege that Alston was invited to Kerry's wedding in 1970, though I'm curious whether that was ever mentioned publicly before 1996. I have some articles on Kerry's wedding but they don't include a guest list that I recall.

144 posted on 10/01/2007 1:41:57 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

A load of #6 shot has 225 pellets. Maybe that’s what they meant.


145 posted on 10/01/2007 1:47:12 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Ireland is a lot like Kentucky. Green, hilly and the people talk funny.)
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To: Fedora
My real question is whether the Alston story goes back to the time of Tiede’s article in 1972 or whether it first appears much more recently in Kerry’s promotional material.

That I don't know.

146 posted on 10/01/2007 2:11:13 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: R. Scott

.30 .30,
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147 posted on 10/01/2007 3:33:43 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yep. That stuff would do it.


148 posted on 10/02/2007 2:01:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Fedora; All

“Kerry’s boat “took 188 enemy hits”

I am late to this thread, but it is my recollection, from reading the book, Unfit for Command, authored by the SwiftVets, that wether or not Kerry’s boat took “188”, “200” or “50” hits, there are/were damage assessment records for his boat that documented those “hits” as having occurred prior to the incident they are ascribed to.

When speaking of actions that higher officers took, with regard to approving awards and medals for incidents in question, in Kerry’s record, one cannot discard Kerry’s own hand, directly or indirectly, in the action reports that, in the Navy code of honor, the higher officers would not generally question in paper work passed up to them. Their approval cannot alone substantiate the basis, the factual basis of any claim - other than the singular fact that they signed a paper that was sent up to them; a report/citation they simply assumed to be correct.

Additionally (if not already mentioned in the thread), in one case mentioned in Unfit for Command, Kerry was denied an award citation by his commander (the “wound” needed only a bandaid), and then Kerry later resubmitted it to that commander’s replacement.

The replacement knew nothing of the events in question, had not been present, in command, during the events and had he been present they would have been related to him by other officers at the time as well, some of whom also had transferred out. The replacement had no context of experience in the events and took Kerry’s word of honor as a Navy officer, and approved the citation. [As best I can recall from Unfit for Command - unless my Alzhiemers is kicking in today]


149 posted on 11/09/2007 10:43:28 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Fedora

150 posted on 11/09/2007 10:55:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: Wuli

Yes, there was some mention of some precombat problems with the boat’s condition. It was mainly mechanical deterioration type of problems, though, not primarily bullet damage, and nothing anywhere near as extensive as 188 or even 50 hits.


151 posted on 11/13/2007 9:57:06 PM PST by Fedora
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