Posted on 09/30/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by traviskicks
Edited on 09/30/2007 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Manchester – Calls to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and repeal the Constitutional amendment that established the federal income tax drew loud applause yesterday for Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.
The Texas Congressman drew an eclectic mix of more than 500 supporters -- young and old, Libertarians and anti-war Democrats, independents and conservative Republicans -- who cheered his message of limited government, low taxes, free markets, bringing the troops home from Iraq, and returning to a monetary policy based on the gold standard.
Paul said the gathering at Veterans Park wasn't about him, but about his message -- which, he said, has been resonating with more and more people.
"Something very significant is happening in this country today. The paradigm is shifting away from government controlling our lives by force," he said. "People are sick and tired of what's happening and want to control (their) own lives."
He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor. Income tax is an example of the government controlling people, he said, as are the draft, prohibition on drugs, seat belt laws and other regulations.
Paul said current monetary policy amounts to a "secret sinister tax" that takes wealth from the middle class and poor, and redistributes money to Wall Street and the wealthy. The crowd broke into applause when he said the federal reserve system should be abolished.
Earlier in the day, Paul told three New Hampshire reporters he hoped to turn the enthusiasm his campaign has generated -- through the Internet, in "meet-ups" and through campaign donations -- into votes.
The physician-turned-politician said he expects to spend more and more time in New Hampshire. "The slogan on your license plate would indicate this should be fertile ground for us here," he said, alluding to the state's "Live Free or Die" motto.
Paul said he is running on the same policies President Bush advocated when he ran in 2000, which, he added, are the same ones Republicans have run on for years: a balanced budget, limited government, personal freedom and no nation building.
"Most Republicans -- the leadership in Washington -- don't believe in their own platform; that's why they are losing," Paul said.
Rather than try to spread democracy around the world, he said, politicians ought to focus on some of the shortcomings in this country.
"You don't get a fair shake unless you join the establishment," he said.
Paul, who ran for President in 1988 as the Libertarian Party's nominee, said it's more practical to run as a Republican, noting he spent half of his money in 1988 just trying to get on the ballot in all 50 states.
The door-to-door canvassing that followed the rally -- dubbed the Paul Family Walk -- included about 30 family members who led groups of campaigners in the Queen City, Concord and Nashua. Paul himself visited New England College, Dartmouth College and the Dartmouth Medical School after the rally.
Liz Viering and her husband Peter, from Stonington, Conn., said Paul's opposition to the war in Iraq is the major reason they are supporting him. "Money spent on wars of choice takes money away from other programs," she said.
Miles LaPlant, a 21-year old college student from Attleboro, Mass., said Paul is the first candidate who has captured his attention. LaPlant said he likes Paul's stances regarding the Constitution and the country's founding principles.
Jason Kantz, his wife, Angela, and their two children came up from Cambridge, Mass., for the rally. Kantz said Paul "is the only candidate that gives logical answers and means what he says."
He said Paul's stand on the war in Iraq is also an important issue for him. "We need to reduce our involvement around the world and the amount of money we are spending," Kantz said.
Long-time Libertarian Party member Dennis Corrigan of Boxford, Mass., said he supported Paul when the Congressman ran for President as the Libertarian nominee. He said he has been a Libertarian for 40 years and headed the party in Canada at one time.
Corrigan and a friend were soliticiting signatures for a Massachusetts ballot initiative outlawing the income tax. Corrigan said his friend moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project, adding that he plans to move to the state, as well.
Thomas Clark, Minister of the Somersworth Tri-City Convenant Church, gave the invocation for the rally. Before the rally, he said he supports Paul because of his pro-life stance. "The pro-life issue is a major issue for me," Clark said.
Paul concluded the rally by encouraging his supporters to keep the faith, saying most mass movements have been driven by only 2 or 3 percent of the population.
"You are part of that 3 percent today," he said.
A word from Jim Robinson to the moonbats:
To all antiwar moonbats, Paulistas included:
Hey, if you don't like FR and or our support the war policies leave. Go find a website that supports your unfortunate, short-sighted and misguided antiwar efforts. It's really that simple.
In case you antiwar Paulistas haven't noticed, Free Republic supports the war effort 100%. Many of our chapters protest against the antiwar moonbats either weekly, monthly or whenever the opportunity arises. The DC Chapter has been protesting against the antiwar moonbats EVERY Friday night at Walter Reed for three years.
Free Republic has co-sponsored several cross country caravans and hundreds of rallies in cities all across the country and in DC against the antiwar moonbats and in support of our Commander-in-chief, our troops, the war effort and our Gold Star and Blue Star families, many of whom are FReepers.
When you are supporting antiwar moonbats you are working against Free Republic's mission, hurting our efforts, hurting our families who have lost loved ones or have loved ones involved in the fighting, hurting our troops, damaging their morale, working against our efforts to defeat the enemy, and, in fact, giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Antiwar moonbats are the domestic enemy. Antiwar moonbats willingly give aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. In my book, that's tantamount to treason. Ron Paul is an antiwar moonbat. You figure it out. If antiwar moonbats are the enemy and Ron Paul is an aid and comfort supplying antiwar moonbat, then Ron Paul IS the enemy!
If you Paulistas are looking for support on FR for an antiwar moonbat who is giving aid and comfort to our enemies, you're nuts! Free Republic will NEVER support antiwar moonbats!
As far as our official policy on Ron Paul is concerned, it's the same policy we have for his antiwar moonbat allies the traitors Harry Reid, Chuckie Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Cindy Sheehan, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, CodePink, International Answer, et al and their flaming antiwar spam monkeys. Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!
Where the hell did you guys ever get the idea that enemy supporting antiwar moonbats would be welcome on FR?
That plain enough for you or do I need to spell it out?
PSS: I should be watching the Cowboy game now but my son stole the TV to watch Popeye.
Shhhh. You’re making a good argument.
He also has no problem comparing the largest loss of American life to a terrorist attack on American soil, 9/11, to traffic accident deaths. He is a disgrace.
Nice straw man. Ron Paul is not against all taxes, such as those which funded the federal government for roughly one hundred and thirty years. He is merely againt the income tax and wants to radically cut spending.
Thank you.
So what you are basically saying is...I should just be myself. Praise him for leaving Americans and their personal freedoms and money the heck alone while lamenting the fact that he won’t slap the Islamofascists silly.
At least Paul is half right. The libs want to control Americans while appeasing the foreign enemies.
Ross Perot ran as an independent; Paul has no intentions of running as a 3rd party candidate.
Unless Hillary is running as a Republican in the Republican primaries, please explain to me how he could "throw the race" to her.
He's against the war? OMG. ...We'll I'm all for pussyfooting with these A-rabs for the next hundred years if necessary...I don't care if it costs 20 zillion bucks..We'll eventually kill them all. And who gives a damn if there is nothing left of our homeland in 20 years while our government makes our sovereignty and borders all but pointless.
Who cares if American becomes a country that speaks 20 different languages, who cares if government is the country's biggest employer, who cares if half our jobs are shipped over to low wage peasant land...More profits$. Bigger government, more control, more taxes...We need to continue on this course, and keep pushing this obese machine up hill. No term limits, no borders, bigger government and more taxes. It's the only way! We need to keep pushing ahead...
The problem is, where he is half wrong is just too problematic in this day and age.
>>He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor.<<
Implicit in the 2nd treatise of government is that there will be costs for government.
We do need a President who will work to again balance the budget but just focusing on the revenue side won’t do it. As our current President has demonstrated.
Which is vastly different than the stereotypes & grotesque photo-shopped pics promoted here. I've been to the rallies and seen the videos and pics. The people supporting Dr. Paul could just as easily be your next door neighbors.
Uh, yeah, that is a big deal. The fact that you then descend into an absurd rant shows you can't be taken seriously, just like RuPaul.
FWIW, your position on Paul seems pretty reasonable to me. I think he gets a bit absurd with his positions on domestic policy, but his heart is in the right place overall, unless wild shrimp are involved.
How so? If terrorists ever "come here," THEY'D BE DEAD. Paul still supports border security and a strong national defense.
How's Keyes doing in the polls and fundraising, BTW (guffaws)
Hey....if you want to elect Hillary, choose a pro-war Republican in 2008. If you want to defeat her (and avoid repeating the 2006 debacle), run an antiwar Republican and checkmate her. A vote for one of Ron Paul’s opponents is a vote for Hillary. Simple as that.
So tell us how that claim is reconciled with this statement:
He said people should be able to keep 100 percent of the fruits of their labor.
That is the most absurd claim ever.
The main advantage the GOP has over the Dems is the long-standing (and justified) belief among the electorate that the Dems are weak on national security. And you'd have us believe that a winning strategy would be to run to the LEFT of the Dems on national security.
Yep, the 9-11 terrorists are all dead, that is true.
Never mind that they took 3,000 Americans with them.
“If a restaurant has a “bad reputation” with the general public of serving tainted food then that restaurant (and it’s owners’ own name) will keep the bad out of the market and those with a “good rep” will gain more business. I don’t ‘need’ paid bureaucrats inspecting private industry.”
I guess you don’t get away from home much do you? If your new to an area, just how would you get this information?
Yeah...right tell that to Allen, Santorum, Steele, etc. They supported world policing and went down in flames.
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