Posted on 09/29/2007 6:55:02 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
(AP) WEARE, N.H. First, a father was charged with beating up his daughter's boyfriend last week after learning the two had sex. Now, police are preparing to charge the boy with sexual assault.
The 17-year-old boy from Henniker, who admitted to having sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend, will "absolutely" be charged, police said.
Weare Detective Lou Chatel said the boy will be charged as an adult and could face up to a year in jail.
Both teens admitted to having sex during school hours on Sept. 10, but off school property, Chatel said. That afternoon, he said, the girl's father went to John Stark Regional High School and attacked the boy.
School had just let out and the parking lot was filled with students and parents.
The boy suffered cuts and bruises and received two stitches to his face. The father was charged with simple assault.
It all began that morning when the girl did not show up for her first class, even though she had been seen at school.
School officials searched the building, then put out a school-wide page. When the girl didn't respond, they called her parents.
Principal Michael Turmelle the parents helped search for their daughter, called her cell phone and coordinated with school officials.
The teens returned to school at the same time, through separate doors.
The principal said he's upset at the number of people who have sided with the father.
"We all work so hard to give our kids a safe place to go to," he said. "Any time we have an act of violence, it's very upsetting because it is completely antithetical to what we're trying to accomplish."
The girl and her siblings have transferred to another school, Turmelle said.
NH Annotated Statutes 632-A:3
Engages in sexual penetration with a person, other than his legal spouse, who is 13 years of age or older and under 16 years of age where the age difference between the actor and the other person is 3 years or more
Age differential does matter.
. You're exactly right. Someone a little more sophisticated would have kicked a throw-down gun to the little punk before sending him on to his eternal reward.
Then the principle is a horses a$$!!
The issue for me is whether the father had a right to beat up the boy for something in which his daughter was totally and agreeably involved. He should address his daughter’s behavior and look at his own family dynamics which produced a child who made a choice he didn’t like.
I could ask the same question of you in your accusation that I am a porn aficionado. Do you know me?
Your argument style is kind of silly, don’t you think?
Why don't you read my post again and think about it.
Hmmmm.
The 15 year old girl skips a class to have sex with her boyfriend, and the father attacks the boy?
Perhaps he should have had a conversation with his daughter?
Like before she decided she wanted to have sex?
Just a thought.
If you can't tell the difference between American fathers who protect their daughters and third-world crazies who kill their daughters then you are the one with the problem. I don't know what country you grew up in, but deterring horny little predators from touching one's daughters is indeed normal -- and necessary.
So it is okay for fathers that have failed to instruct their children to use violence??? This is true even if their child was an active participant. And this is different how??
What argument? I was pointing out the obvious absurdity of your mindreading post by posting as though I know you. In otherwords, doing to you the exact same thing that you were doing to that father and his family.
Ah! Moral relativism. Gotta love it. A punch in the nose is now equal to murder. God save a defendant from the likes of you on his jury.
I’m confused why the kid is to be charged with sexual assault?
I’m not condoning his and the girl’s bad errors at all, but I don’t see how this is legally possible?
I did read your post, again. It’s still just as stupid now as it was when you first posted it.
As to protecting his daughter he is a day late and a dollar short!
Again...both the father and the daughter are responsible for the daughter’s choice of behavior...not the boy. The father’s response to the incident is as primitive as Sharia Law.
The father did not beat this boy in self defense. Therefore he behaved in defiance of our laws. He needs to move to Pakistan.
“the father should have just as much beef with his daughter for consenting to the sex. Most 15 year old girls are as mature as 17 year old guys. It may be that the father cannot stand the idea that his daughter is loose so he figures it must be the boys fault....and so the beating.”
I have to say I don’t quite understand that, either.
Seems we still think males are the sexual predators and females are innocent. These days, sex is everywhere, promoted as the most awesome thing, and virtually expected once you reach 14. Females are just as guilty as loose morals are males.
Personally, I would beat her up for screwing around contrary to my teachings.
Kind of the same twisted logic of the jilted spouse blaming and going off on the spouse’s LOVER, instead of focusing on the spouse who directly violated the contract with the jilted. It’s the SPOUSE’S butt which should be on the line, not some 2nd party.
“Your posts sound like you know him, and his family quite well.”
I do know this about the father (as do you):
His daughter willingly left campus to participate in sexual congress. She wasn’t dragged off campus in chains. She made a choice.
The father discovered his daughter left school and had sex with a boy.
The father became angry. Instead of addressing his daughter’s responsibility in making the choice to leave school and have sex he chose to beat her co-conspirator.
1. The father has a temper which expresses itself in physical violence.
2. The father ignores the law.
3. The father blames someone else for the problem daughter’s choices which HE has ‘raised’.
4. In his mind he has abnegated any personal responsibility for his and his daughter’s acts.
5. He had the right to address ONLY his daughter’s behavior. And even then he would have had NO right to beat her either.
And YOU ‘understand’ and cheer his example.
You keep going on about “in his mind”, etc. I do not know what was “in his mind” and neither do you. I also do not know what, if anything, he did with his daughter, and neither do you. I do not know if there is a history with the 17 year old male, and neither do you.
I’m glad that you think it is ok for a 17 year old male to screw your 15 year old daughter. Now, remember when that happens, you must buy the boy a beer, cuz boys will be boys and can’t be held responsible for anything they do when it comes to sex. They are just mindless animals with automatic zippers. While the boy is drinking that beer, why have a nice friendly, fireside chat with him about how inappropriate it was for him to do your daughter, and would he please refrain from doing so in the future. Make sure that you put your hand on his arm, and give him a real ernest look while you are giving your oprah talk to him. I’m sure that he’ll repent and throw himself on the floor weeping with shame, and never misbehave again.
Your diatribe as to how to deal with the 17 year old boy has nothing to do with whether or not the father is within his rights to beat the kid up. No one asked him to kiss the boy.
Your verbiage is sheer obfuscation of the issue of the father’s violent and displaced response. Obviously you approve.
Nobody said it was okay for the the two adolescents to screw around. The issue is the fathers lack of mature judgment.
It is not acceptable for an adult to attack a 17 year old boy at a public school(or any school, place, etc). However, in your culture it is acceptable behavior to use violence to achieve order through fear.
Hey Scotsman, I enjoyed the exchange with you this morning. You have your perceptions and I have mine. Aren’t we lucky that we have a forum like this where we can express our opinions.
God Bless America and Free Republic too!
I’m not sure myself. Maybe it’s an age-of-consent thing.
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