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Republican Debate #7 – Baltimore, MD 09/27/07 - Brownback, Huckabee, Hunter, Keyes, Paul, Tancredo

Posted on 09/27/2007 5:26:47 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #7 – Baltimore, Maryland 09/27/07 - Official Discussion Thread

All-American Presidential Forum on PBS
Morgan State University, Baltimore, Maryland
September 27, 2007, 9:00 pm-10:30 pm ET (check your local PBS listings)
Moderated by Tavis Smiley.

Candidates participating:

Journalists involved...



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; baltimore; bottomtier; brownback; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; gopdebate; gopdebates; gopnomineenothere; hunter; keyes; maryland; mikehuckabee; paul; paulestinians; pbs; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; ronpaul; sambrownback; smiley; tancredo; tavis; tavissmiley; theseguyswillnotwin; tomtancredo; wasteoftime; yawn
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To: Sun

Hunter has my support because of his positions, and not because of some stupid media event that grants 30 or 60 seconds to give a response to questions that are plaguing the world.

I wish one of them would get asked a question like, “How to solve the Iraq situation” and answer with a bibliography of titles of articles/books.

It’s just ignorant the way they do these things.


361 posted on 09/28/2007 11:50:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: AirForceBrat23

“I WAS THERE!!! I WAS FIVE ROWS AWAY FROM THE STAGE!!!”

How lucky you were!


362 posted on 09/28/2007 11:52:09 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: HonestConservative

Thanks.

http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx !!!!


363 posted on 09/28/2007 11:53:41 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: xzins

I wish more voters would do their own thorough research as you do, but unfortunately many won’t.

So for these kinds of people, the debates is all there is, and many don’t even watch debates. They just pull levers.


364 posted on 09/28/2007 11:56:17 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Califreak

See you at the primaries! :)


365 posted on 09/28/2007 11:57:32 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: AirForceBrat23

BTW

I MET DH at the GOE (not that he had a choice!)


366 posted on 09/28/2007 1:23:55 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite, Stevedore, eeevildoer)
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To: Obie Wan
I like the idea that Hunter and Tancreado might actually get a chance to say something,which they didn’t get in the previous debates !!!

I have to say, I did watch the entire debate--how I managed to watch PBS for an hour is known only to God and my accountant.

Tancredo did well overall. Hunter was all right, and answered most of the questions, unlike some of the other candidates. Alan Keyes was fabulous in his content, but he kept going over his time limit, falling into those weird jerky movements of his, and reminding me of "The Muppets Take Manhattan."

It was the "should win, but won't" debate.
367 posted on 09/28/2007 7:49:58 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (Life, death, love, God, and truth are my talking points. JxCxHxCx.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
During the debate, I did start referring to some of the candidates by nicknames:

From left to right:

Mike Huckabee-"Huckleberry"
Ron Paul-"Dr. Strangestlove"
Sam Brownback-"Slitty"
Tancredo-"President Combover"
Hunter-Uh, didn't have one
Keyes-Of course,"Kermit"

I don't think everyone else in the room got it when I said things like, "Right on, Kermit," or "Huckleberry's got a point!" Oh well.
368 posted on 09/28/2007 7:58:54 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks (Life, death, love, God, and truth are my talking points. JxCxHxCx.)
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To: chaos_5
"This is just another second tier debate. It’s unfortunate, I would like to see a debate with all of the frontrunner's and Hunter."


I do not see any reason to exclude the other second tier candidates when he has not shown any movement out of the second tier.
369 posted on 09/29/2007 10:27:40 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: ansel12
"My Saturday night beer drinking group is to the right of the whole stage, but I wouldn’t want my Representative that I respect ( which is Duncan)to have to debate us all as we fought for the bottom of the 2 per centers."


It is one thing for a front runner to think that he is wasting his time debating with "2 per centers", but since when is a 2 per center above debating other 2 per centers?
370 posted on 09/29/2007 10:31:28 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777
I was implying that I would like to see him moving out of the second tier. But, it is what it is.

This could be considered one of the Vice Presidential debates, the other being the Values Voters debate that all the big names skipped. =o)

371 posted on 09/29/2007 10:44:32 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Califreak

You know, normally Duncan does very well at debates...but it seemed some of the issues being thrown towards him were a bit out of his interest.

I thought Huckabee did the best out of them all, especially when it came down to the topic of relations between whites and blacks. And I don’t formally support Huckabee...I’m much more of Fred/Hunter supporter. I think it was an error that Fred didn’t come, but then again I don’t know the full context of his reasoning.

Either way, it was entertaining to say the least.


372 posted on 09/29/2007 10:46:38 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: jmyrlefuller
"Tancredo, I like you, but between you and Hunter, you’re too much alike, and I personally like Hunter better."

I do not see them as too much alike at all. Tancredo is conservative across the board including reigning in the role of government. I am not so crazy with Hunter's spending record.




Besides, we need types like you in Congress anyway.

Agreed.




Keyes? Go eat a sandwich.

He would not get my vote after running in the Illinois Senate race after criticizing Hillary for her discovery of New York in time to run for that state's Senator. That being said, he provides an understanding of our founding principles matched by few in politics, not to mention his ability to articulate those principles. His presence raises the intellectual tone of any debate.




That leaves us with Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Thompson, Huckabee, and Hunter. Then let the games begin.

I would substitute Tancredo for Hunter. The problem is that there is no logical rational other than preference to let either in if the other bottom tier candidates are excluded. If an unbiased thinning of the crowd was done on the basis of demonstrated support we would be left with Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Thompson and Huckabee.
373 posted on 09/29/2007 10:52:58 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777

It was the group that they submitted themselves to.

Most of the participants groveled in front of a racist, liberal group that should not have been dignified by attendance, and they groveled by feeding the groups prejudices and political preferences by attacking fellow Republicans and their party.

Before I turned it off I was glad to see that Hunter had stayed true to honor and dignity.

The Republicans need to form their own race special interest formats if they want to have race specific debates. It would also elevate in the public eye, our own minority management and organizers, and leaders from our part of the political spectrum.


374 posted on 09/29/2007 1:47:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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To: ansel12
"It was the group that they submitted themselves to."


You do have a point there.
375 posted on 09/29/2007 2:46:15 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: jmyrlefuller

actually,tom tancredo,who is my favorite candidate(yeah,i know he can’t win)would do a great job running Homeland Security instead of that snake-headed creature they have there now


376 posted on 09/30/2007 8:05:18 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ0GupTQVpA

Rudy skips minority debate to fundraise with Bo Derek


377 posted on 09/30/2007 10:33:02 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: anyone

I watched the whole thing on replay and I thought Tancredo, Hunter and Paul all did a brilliant job of dragging the debate out of the sewer of of “victimhood” and race and back where it belongs...

Conservative and libertarian principles of free markets, opportunity and personal responsibility.

Meanwhile, Huckabee proved that he is a liberal and pandered for votes.


378 posted on 09/30/2007 3:05:26 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: governmentstillsucks
but he kept going over his time limit

For the record, he didn't go over his time limit even once. He was being abused by a hostile moderator who despises him and kept cutting him off early. (Jealousy, in my opinion. And more than a bit of a guilty conscience concerning the core message...)

379 posted on 10/05/2007 7:53:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
For the record, he didn't go over his time limit even once. He was being abused by a hostile moderator who despises him and kept cutting him off early. (Jealousy, in my opinion. And more than a bit of a guilty conscience concerning the core message...)

I expected this thread to be quite stiff and buried! There was a certain tension between Tavis and Mr. Keyes, but Alan kept going and going.

Have you gone back and timed the whole thing out again? That might be interesting.
380 posted on 10/05/2007 5:02:40 PM PDT by governmentstillsucks ( "Christianity provides a unified answer for the whole of life." --Dr. Francis Schaeffer)
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