Republican Debate #7 – Baltimore, MD 09/27/07 - Brownback, Huckabee, Hunter, Keyes, Paul, Tancredo

[CounterCounterCulture]

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #7 – Baltimore, Maryland 09/27/07 - Official Discussion Thread

All-American Presidential Forum on PBS
Morgan State University, Baltimore, Maryland
September 27, 2007, 9:00 pm-10:30 pm ET (check your local PBS listings)
Moderated by Tavis Smiley.

Candidates participating:

• Sam Brownback
• Mike Huckabee
• Duncan Hunter
• Alan Keyes
• Ron Paul
• Tom Tancredo

Journalists involved...

• Ray Suarez is a Washington-based Senior Correspondent who joined The NewsHour in October 1999. Suarez has thirty years of varied experience in the news business.
• Cynthia Tucker is the editorial page editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist whose work appears in dozens of newspapers. She is also a popular television commentator.
• Juan Williams is the Senior Correspondent for National Public Radio and Political Analyst for the Fox News Channel. He is a regular panelist on the weekly news affair program Fox News Sunday.

[xzins]

Hunter has my support because of his positions, and not because of some stupid media event that grants 30 or 60 seconds to give a response to questions that are plaguing the world.

I wish one of them would get asked a question like, “How to solve the Iraq situation” and answer with a bibliography of titles of articles/books.

It’s just ignorant the way they do these things.

[Sun]

“I WAS THERE!!! I WAS FIVE ROWS AWAY FROM THE STAGE!!!”

How lucky you were!

[Sun]

Thanks.

http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx !!!!

[Sun]

I wish more voters would do their own thorough research as you do, but unfortunately many won’t.

So for these kinds of people, the debates is all there is, and many don’t even watch debates. They just pull levers.

[Sun]

See you at the primaries! :)

[HonestConservative]

BTW

I MET DH at the GOE (not that he had a choice!)

[governmentstillsucks]

I like the idea that Hunter and Tancreado might actually get a chance to say something,which they didn’t get in the previous debates !!!

I have to say, I did watch the entire debate--how I managed to watch PBS for an hour is known only to God and my accountant.

Tancredo did well overall. Hunter was all right, and answered most of the questions, unlike some of the other candidates. Alan Keyes was fabulous in his content, but he kept going over his time limit, falling into those weird jerky movements of his, and reminding me of "The Muppets Take Manhattan."

It was the "should win, but won't" debate.

[governmentstillsucks]

During the debate, I did start referring to some of the candidates by nicknames:

From left to right:

Mike Huckabee-"Huckleberry"
Ron Paul-"Dr. Strangestlove"
Sam Brownback-"Slitty"
Tancredo-"President Combover"
Hunter-Uh, didn't have one
Keyes-Of course,"Kermit"

I don't think everyone else in the room got it when I said things like, "Right on, Kermit," or "Huckleberry's got a point!" Oh well.

[rob777]

"This is just another second tier debate. It’s unfortunate, I would like to see a debate with all of the frontrunner's and Hunter."


I do not see any reason to exclude the other second tier candidates when he has not shown any movement out of the second tier.

[rob777]

"My Saturday night beer drinking group is to the right of the whole stage, but I wouldn’t want my Representative that I respect ( which is Duncan)to have to debate us all as we fought for the bottom of the 2 per centers."


It is one thing for a front runner to think that he is wasting his time debating with "2 per centers", but since when is a 2 per center above debating other 2 per centers?

[chaos_5]

I was implying that I would like to see him moving out of the second tier. But, it is what it is.

This could be considered one of the Vice Presidential debates, the other being the Values Voters debate that all the big names skipped. =o)

[Rick_Michael]

You know, normally Duncan does very well at debates...but it seemed some of the issues being thrown towards him were a bit out of his interest.

I thought Huckabee did the best out of them all, especially when it came down to the topic of relations between whites and blacks. And I don’t formally support Huckabee...I’m much more of Fred/Hunter supporter. I think it was an error that Fred didn’t come, but then again I don’t know the full context of his reasoning.

Either way, it was entertaining to say the least.

[rob777]

"Tancredo, I like you, but between you and Hunter, you’re too much alike, and I personally like Hunter better."

I do not see them as too much alike at all. Tancredo is conservative across the board including reigning in the role of government. I am not so crazy with Hunter's spending record.




Besides, we need types like you in Congress anyway.

Agreed.




Keyes? Go eat a sandwich.

He would not get my vote after running in the Illinois Senate race after criticizing Hillary for her discovery of New York in time to run for that state's Senator. That being said, he provides an understanding of our founding principles matched by few in politics, not to mention his ability to articulate those principles. His presence raises the intellectual tone of any debate.




That leaves us with Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Thompson, Huckabee, and Hunter. Then let the games begin.

I would substitute Tancredo for Hunter. The problem is that there is no logical rational other than preference to let either in if the other bottom tier candidates are excluded. If an unbiased thinning of the crowd was done on the basis of demonstrated support we would be left with Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Thompson and Huckabee.

[ansel12]

It was the group that they submitted themselves to.

Most of the participants groveled in front of a racist, liberal group that should not have been dignified by attendance, and they groveled by feeding the groups prejudices and political preferences by attacking fellow Republicans and their party.

Before I turned it off I was glad to see that Hunter had stayed true to honor and dignity.

The Republicans need to form their own race special interest formats if they want to have race specific debates. It would also elevate in the public eye, our own minority management and organizers, and leaders from our part of the political spectrum.

[rob777]

"It was the group that they submitted themselves to."


You do have a point there.

[steamroller]

actually,tom tancredo,who is my favorite candidate(yeah,i know he can’t win)would do a great job running Homeland Security instead of that snake-headed creature they have there now

[calcowgirl]

Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ0GupTQVpA

Rudy skips minority debate to fundraise with Bo Derek

[Eric Blair 2084]

I watched the whole thing on replay and I thought Tancredo, Hunter and Paul all did a brilliant job of dragging the debate out of the sewer of of “victimhood” and race and back where it belongs...

Conservative and libertarian principles of free markets, opportunity and personal responsibility.

Meanwhile, Huckabee proved that he is a liberal and pandered for votes.

[EternalVigilance]

but he kept going over his time limit

For the record, he didn't go over his time limit even once. He was being abused by a hostile moderator who despises him and kept cutting him off early. (Jealousy, in my opinion. And more than a bit of a guilty conscience concerning the core message...)

[governmentstillsucks]

For the record, he didn't go over his time limit even once. He was being abused by a hostile moderator who despises him and kept cutting him off early. (Jealousy, in my opinion. And more than a bit of a guilty conscience concerning the core message...)

I expected this thread to be quite stiff and buried! There was a certain tension between Tavis and Mr. Keyes, but Alan kept going and going.

Have you gone back and timed the whole thing out again? That might be interesting.