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UNM Student 'Livid' Over Wrong Flag (tore down Mexican flag)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | September 25, 2007 | Martin Salazar

Posted on 09/25/2007 1:17:19 PM PDT by CedarDave

A University of New Mexico student who tore down the Mexican flag from a school flagpole said Monday he was upset because the university was flying another nation's flag without the U.S. flag.

"I was livid with the situation, and it wasn't the fact that it was the Mexican flag," said Peter Lynch, a mechanical engineering student who served in the U.S. military for nearly eight years. "It was the fact that it was any foreign banner."

He said he was particularly upset that it happened on Constitution Day, Sept. 17, and that university officials did nothing to rectify the situation after he informed them.

UNM officials said miscommunication led to the Mexican flag flying at Scholes Hall without the American flag.

Flag etiquette prescribes that no other nation's flag be flown in place of the U.S. flag. ...

The U.S. and state flags were raised outside the UNM administration building Sept. 14 by Army ROTC [students] ... A third pole that usually carries the UNM flag was left empty so the Mexican Student Association could raise the Mexican flag later that day in honor of Mexican independence day.

At the end of the day, the ROTC students lowered the U.S. and state flags but left the Mexican flag flying because they believed that the Mexican Student Association would take it down. The students forgot and left it hanging all weekend, McKinsey said.

On Monday morning, the ROTC students who were scheduled to raise the American and state flags forgot to do so.

UNM police say Lynch tore the Mexican flag apart on Sept. 17. A criminal complaint charges him with misdemeanor criminal damage to property.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; flag; immigration; mexicanflag; mexico; newmexico; nm; unm
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To: Peter R. Lynch
Peter, while the university may have a case against you for damaging the Mexican flag in question when you ripped it down, they surely can't want all the negative attention that your case is going to garner.

If I were you, and if you really want to fight this, I'd dial up the political pressure on the university by bringing this matter to the attention of Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, and New Mexico Senator Pete Domenici (forget about Bingaman--he's a 'Rat), all of whom might just ask the university why it was actively violating the U.S. Flag Code.

In the meantime, I'd also run down to the local Five-and-Dime and buy a new Mexican flag to replace the one you ripped to take the air out of the university's sails on this.

21 posted on 09/25/2007 1:30:45 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: CedarDave

I’ll pay his fine.


23 posted on 09/25/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: capt. norm

“..but bringing Mexico with them is unacceptable.”

Why not? It is acceptable to Jorge and many other politicians.


24 posted on 09/25/2007 1:31:13 PM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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To: CedarDave

Remember the Alamo!


25 posted on 09/25/2007 1:31:51 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Jeff Head

“Mexican flag flying at Scholes Hall”

Isn’t the point of this story is that it is NOT flying.


26 posted on 09/25/2007 1:32:05 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: CedarDave
A third pole that usually carries the UNM flag was left empty so the Mexican Student Association could raise the Mexican flag later that day in honor of Mexican independence day.

They have eyes but do not see.

That's right MSA - Mexican INDEPENDENCE Day. They are a sovereign nation. The USA is a sovereign nation (at least for now). We also have an Independence Day and we don't raise the Union Jack in the States. Celebrate Mexican holidays on Mexican soil.

27 posted on 09/25/2007 1:32:30 PM PDT by relictele
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To: CedarDave; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...
NM Ping

If you want on or off the NM Ping list, please FReepmail me.

bcsco for your ping list

28 posted on 09/25/2007 1:34:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: CedarDave
a) The Mexican Flag being flown alone at an University of the United States over US soil would be in violation of the Federal law...where are the Feds?
b)The student removing the Mexican flag was enforcing the Federal Law....cannot citizens of the US uphold Federal Law until the authorities take over...like a citizens arrest?
c)Why aren't the Feds investigating a clear violation of Federal Law at a major US university?
d)Shouldn't the funding of a university that flies the flag of another nation be considered a foreign university and subject to loss of funds from the US government? Especially if that said University persecutes a US citizen upholding the US Federal Law?
Are my thoughts just wrong?
29 posted on 09/25/2007 1:34:50 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: CedarDave

Right on, Peter!!!


30 posted on 09/25/2007 1:35:11 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: gridlock

Why should it be tolerated at all that a Mexican Students association put up the Mexican flag AT all on American soild (public property, no less, not private home)!

Especailly so near our Constitution day!!

Mexican independence day can go to France! I don’t care..


31 posted on 09/25/2007 1:35:49 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: 3AngelaD

ping


32 posted on 09/25/2007 1:36:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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To: SJSAMPLE
The Mexican flag should never have been flying in the first place

BUMP
33 posted on 09/25/2007 1:38:33 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: CedarDave

The explanation sounds ok to me. The JROTC students would not have done this except for poor communication. Sorry that is just what I believe happened. If others think otherwise than the JROTC students are owed what you think happened.


34 posted on 09/25/2007 1:38:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: RonF

I think he was pretty ticked off by the time he took it down. He shouldn’t have torn it, but he did.

His actions hardly call for him being labeled as racist, xenophobic, hateful, etc. as the UNM is doing though.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1901205/posts

And you’ll just love this.... No concern at all for Americans or the treatment of the American flag at all.

“The University won’t tolerate that kind of behavior, President David Schmidly said.

“It’s inexcusable to desecrate a flag,” he said. “I’m not going to be very pleasant to deal with on this issue.”

What makes the situation worse is that it was a Mexican flag, Schmidly said.

“For God’s sake, New Mexico was part of Mexico at one time,” he said. “There’s tremendous ties, and we have a large population of Hispanics that live in our state and many of them have relatives and connections to Mexico.”


35 posted on 09/25/2007 1:40:27 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: CedarDave

Thank you, Peter Lynch!!!

We need more — MUCH MORE — of this sort of CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE from our side.


36 posted on 09/25/2007 1:41:01 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: CedarDave

http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title4/chapter1_.html

No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof.

Pete should hie himself down to the nearest federal courthouse and swear out a complaint against the Mexican student organization . . .
Oops, I forgot: our laws don’t apply to our friends to the south.


37 posted on 09/25/2007 1:41:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (And their money is actually cheaper to use, and less sandpaper-ish, than their toilet papel)
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To: All

Since the Mexican flag was not supposed to be raised...there is no problem with taking it down and destroying it.

Its a foreign flag, not an American flag.

Since it is seditious to fly a flag that symbolizes overthrowing America (the flag used by Aztlan movement) I have zero problem with its removal or destruction


38 posted on 09/25/2007 1:45:10 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: whipitgood

Burning is much too respectful.


39 posted on 09/25/2007 1:50:29 PM PDT by isrul
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To: CedarDave
UNM officials said miscommunication led to the Mexican flag flying at Scholes Hall without the American flag.

They're not even good liars!

40 posted on 09/25/2007 1:50:45 PM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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