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War With Iran -- Is America Ready?
Self and Others | 09-23-07 | cww

Posted on 09/23/2007 5:53:16 PM PDT by CWW

Recently I have had conversations with several intelligence/counter-insurgent military experts regarding potential war with Iran. The response is always the same -- You have no idea how bad Iran wants the U.S. to throw them into that briar patch.

They tell me that there are no good options; just less bad ones. Iran, like Osama Bin Laden, wants this holy war!

Apparently, Iran has been flooding Hezbollah spies into Mexico and other U.S. border areas, and they are armed with stinger missles prepared to shoot down U.S. planes if we attack Iran. This, they say, would be just the first course of a long-planned battle of asymetrical warfare.

Similar actions would be ordered by Iran in Syria and Lebanon. The Middle East would be plunged deep into a bloody war, again, much of it asymetrical.

Oil prices would quickly sky rocket, threatenting to sink not just our economy, but the global economy.

So what do we do? We definintely need NATO and other free nations such as Australia, to stand together. We definitely cannot allow countries like Syria or Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

Americans need to understand, that a war with Iran will be a larger expansion of a developing Third World War. This is absolutley critical!! War with Iraq will look like a small skirmish. Most Americans have no clue of the sacrifies that will be demanded of them. That's why Iraq is so important to our military strategy.

So -- I'm interested in hearing comments from military intelligence and counter-insurgency experts? Is this picture painted by my friends accurate or exaggerated?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; asymetricalwarfare; iran; iraniannukes; iranianproxywar; iraq; israel; proxywar; unsourced; vanity; war
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1 posted on 09/23/2007 5:53:22 PM PDT by CWW
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To: CWW
War With Iran -- Is America Ready?

Yes, I think it's safe to say, we're ready and we've been ready for at least 20 years.

2 posted on 09/23/2007 5:54:09 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (life is like "a bad Saturday Night Live skit that is done in extremely bad taste.")
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To: the invisib1e hand

sorry, not an expert in anything but hunches.


3 posted on 09/23/2007 5:54:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (life is like "a bad Saturday Night Live skit that is done in extremely bad taste.")
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To: CWW

Tehran


4 posted on 09/23/2007 5:57:48 PM PDT by South40
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1901112/posts?page=12#12


5 posted on 09/23/2007 5:58:18 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: CWW
No. We are not. Our Army and Marines are stretched thin as it is. If we had to fight in a third country - and not just Iraq and Afghanistan - we would need to use the Navy and Air Force for ground troops until a draft could provide sufficient numbers to take over.

Some hawks peddle the asinine theory that a war with Iran could be won by air power alone. Never mind the fact that we have never, EVER done so.

6 posted on 09/23/2007 5:59:49 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: South40

You know... the reality is that about half a dozen of those spread out in the middle east would change a lot of peoples minds. Terrorist shoots down an american plane. We nuke a city. Terrorist shoots down another american plane... we nuke another city. Personally.... I think we win that war.


7 posted on 09/23/2007 6:02:21 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: CWW
They tell me that there are no good options; just less bad ones. Iran, like Osama Bin Laden, wants this holy war!

What the enemy wants, or doesn't want, is irrelevant to our decision to attack them. What is relevant is the threat they pose, and the best means for countering that threat. So far, no administration, from Carter onward, has taken any direct steps against Iran, even though Iran has and continues to engage in indirect warfare with us. It is a curious thing to observe. But not being privy to such state secrets, I can only hope they have good reasons for the approach taken.

Those reasons will melt like ice in the sun when the first Iranian nuclear weapon detonates. Especially if it detonates on non-Iranian soil.

8 posted on 09/23/2007 6:03:07 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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Of course we’re ready. Nukes will be justified in these scenarios, and that will end it quicker than you can say Imanutjob.


9 posted on 09/23/2007 6:03:26 PM PDT by gotribe (I've been disenfranchised by the GOP.)
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To: kjam22
the reality is that about half a dozen of those spread out in the middle east would change a lot of peoples minds. Terrorist shoots down an american plane. We nuke a city. Terrorist shoots down another american plane... we nuke another city. Personally.... I think we win that war.

That would alienate most of the rest of the world against us.

10 posted on 09/23/2007 6:03:31 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: jude24

We didn’t have to invade and occupy Japan.


11 posted on 09/23/2007 6:03:45 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: jude24

You mean more than they are already alienated against us?


12 posted on 09/23/2007 6:04:35 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: kjam22

Except for the reality that we would not react in such a manner. Nuking cities is a certain way to lose the moral war.


13 posted on 09/23/2007 6:04:45 PM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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To: CWW
The US military is ready.

The civilian populace is plugged in to The Simpsons.

14 posted on 09/23/2007 6:04:55 PM PDT by stboz
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We didn’t have to invade and occupy Japan.

Bullsnot. We're **still** in Okinawa.

15 posted on 09/23/2007 6:05:01 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: jude24

We’re in Okinawa under different circumstances than we’re in Iraq. Don’t you think?


16 posted on 09/23/2007 6:05:53 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: kjam22

The Japanese leaders were not Islamic madmen.


17 posted on 09/23/2007 6:05:55 PM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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To: CWW

I just came in from outside chores and the first thing I saw is “Putin to visit Iran on Oct 16”. Not sure if it is a rumor or an actual news release.


18 posted on 09/23/2007 6:06:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: kjam22
You mean more than they are already alienated against us?

Yes. Right now, Europe and Asia give little more than pro forma objections without any teeth. If we killed civilians in retaliation for an attack (in violation of Geneva, incidentally!), Europe and Asia would unite against us in war.

19 posted on 09/23/2007 6:06:53 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Elsiejay

They had suicide bombers in world war II as well. We’ll never win this war if we’re afraid to win it because we might make somebody mad at us.


20 posted on 09/23/2007 6:07:27 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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