Posted on 09/22/2007 6:45:35 AM PDT by shrinkermd
Don’t suppose the author has been to Michigan, Ohio or Wisconsin. LOTS of farms around here - all east of the Mississippi.
“Eastern vegetables may not be as perfect as those grown under irrigation in a desert, but if the West returns to a drier climate, imperfect vegetables will look good indeed.”
Perfect must not include taste.
He has not said there are no farms, but, rather, cotton, row crops are overly dependent on irrigation in the West.
A lot of talk about availability of water. How much land is available east of the Mississippi? Are there large tracts of farm land now unused? Maybe everyone there could have a back yard garden to relieve the need for large farms in the west. I’ll look somewhere other that the NYT for advice about agriculture (or anything else for that matter).
Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee all have lots and lots of basically fallow land. It hasn’t been farmed in years and is now over grown or in pasture.
If there were a profitable crop...... it could be brought to production.
How much of this land is under the land bank?
It is a myth that we are running out of farm land anywhere in this country.
I don’t think there is still a land bank?
Much is in estates where granma finally died and the grand kids can’t get it all together long enough to deal with it. More is still her’s but she lives there and leases enough to pay taxes and get by.
Well, no. The biggest factor in the demise of Eastern agriculture was simple economies of scale. By 1980 even the western homestead was obsolete, as the typical 40 to 160 acre family farm had been displaced by major farms covering several thousand acres each. There probably aren't enough contiguous parcels of land east of the Appalachian Mountains that could be used for this kind of operation.
They’ll have to cut down tracts of forest to clear land for farming. What once was farmland is now forest which is what it was before settlers farmed the land. A lot of trust fund babies are gonna start crying.
Alabama is 73% forested and forests are growing at a million acres a year.
I know of people, west of the Mississippi, farming five hundred to fifteen hundred acres with the largest contiguous parcel less than one hundred acres. They lease most of the land and may not have it long if developers decide it's good for a subdivision. Not the best way to do it but it's a living.
You're probably correct about the geography, however, the greatest threat against the family farm is your government through the EPA. They have effectively "taken" resources through the power of government that many cannot afford.
Just try cutting down a tree in order to plant a crop today...
I was scared a couple years ago when a farmer up the street sold some land off to a developer but only 4 houses popped up ..so far ..guess people don't want to live with crickets and pigs yet that make at least me happy !
Wow I've seen those signs on farms in areas that have ponds or good size creeks running through them there's outrageous buffer zones to keep farmers form planting or spraying around them ....funny part is the farmer gives them permission to create the zone and are compensated for some of the loss they even have some places you cant even walk on let alone use for farming ..
Tobacco.
Nice idea, but not gonna happen. First reason is the trees.
Used to be 100 years ago, the trees were all cleared and there were subsistence farms everywhere in extreme Northeast PA. Now the trees are back covering all of what used to be farmed 100 years ago. All over the Northeast as you drive along roads you will see stonewalls wandering off into the woods. Those woods used to be open fields.
Environmentalists aren’t going to let trees be cut. They represent potential habitat for wolves, cougar, lynx and moose.
Not to mention that the author’s estimate of water needed for crops is way off base (too low). Also the water in many of the big rivers in the East is already allocated. Where we live the Delaware River Basin Authority was mumbling something about limiting private water wells in Northeast PA to “save” water in the aquifer for the big cities downstream.
I do believe every person who can should have a garden and grow fruits and vegetables for one’s family.
The EPA uses extorsion to elicit "permission" from the small farmer. He cannot begin to challenge the forces of the feral government. Some have tried, that's why they're gone.
For a good look at the "zones", you really need to take a low level aircraft flight across our fruited plains and see the boundaries set up around "drainage ditches" also known as gullies. The EPA is an out-of-control government bureaucracy that cannot be challenged in a court of law. It is used to the benefit of the large corporate entities that wish to take control of the production of our food.
These idiot liberals have no concept of the way the world works. Agricultural technology and the warmer climate of the west allows much more food to be grown on fewer acres. That means less productive land in the east can go back to nature - i.e. trees - or put to more productive use as homes or industry.
The environmental plan of the left is to use millions of acres of these less efficient lands for diffuse energy production - wind, solar, bio mass and food grown close-to-urban areas (because they think tranporting food over 20 miles wastes energy). It will be incredibly destructive to land that has now gone back to nature. These people with their foolish ideas are anti-environmentalists.
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