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1 posted on 09/22/2007 6:45:36 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Don’t suppose the author has been to Michigan, Ohio or Wisconsin. LOTS of farms around here - all east of the Mississippi.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 6:55:14 AM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: shrinkermd

“Eastern vegetables may not be as perfect as those grown under irrigation in a desert, but if the West returns to a drier climate, imperfect vegetables will look good indeed.”

Perfect must not include taste.


3 posted on 09/22/2007 6:55:59 AM PDT by blueheron2 (Don't be discouraged.)
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To: shrinkermd

A lot of talk about availability of water. How much land is available east of the Mississippi? Are there large tracts of farm land now unused? Maybe everyone there could have a back yard garden to relieve the need for large farms in the west. I’ll look somewhere other that the NYT for advice about agriculture (or anything else for that matter).


5 posted on 09/22/2007 7:03:50 AM PDT by FreePaul
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By 1980, Western irrigation and improvements in transportation had largely destroyed this Eastern system of agriculture.

Well, no. The biggest factor in the demise of Eastern agriculture was simple economies of scale. By 1980 even the western homestead was obsolete, as the typical 40 to 160 acre family farm had been displaced by major farms covering several thousand acres each. There probably aren't enough contiguous parcels of land east of the Appalachian Mountains that could be used for this kind of operation.

10 posted on 09/22/2007 7:19:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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They’ll have to cut down tracts of forest to clear land for farming. What once was farmland is now forest which is what it was before settlers farmed the land. A lot of trust fund babies are gonna start crying.


11 posted on 09/22/2007 7:22:12 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: shrinkermd

Nice idea, but not gonna happen. First reason is the trees.
Used to be 100 years ago, the trees were all cleared and there were subsistence farms everywhere in extreme Northeast PA. Now the trees are back covering all of what used to be farmed 100 years ago. All over the Northeast as you drive along roads you will see stonewalls wandering off into the woods. Those woods used to be open fields.

Environmentalists aren’t going to let trees be cut. They represent potential habitat for wolves, cougar, lynx and moose.

Not to mention that the author’s estimate of water needed for crops is way off base (too low). Also the water in many of the big rivers in the East is already allocated. Where we live the Delaware River Basin Authority was mumbling something about limiting private water wells in Northeast PA to “save” water in the aquifer for the big cities downstream.

I do believe every person who can should have a garden and grow fruits and vegetables for one’s family.


18 posted on 09/22/2007 8:17:32 AM PDT by finnsheep
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**Richard T. McNider and John R. Christy are professors of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.**

What the hell do they know about farming?


21 posted on 09/22/2007 8:54:35 AM PDT by Swiss
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Meanwhile, its a miracle that we still have folks with five acres to plant corn on here in Central New Jersey.


27 posted on 09/22/2007 6:27:54 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: shrinkermd

cotton should be removed from arizona and california because it is water intensive.

we need the water for other uses.


28 posted on 09/22/2007 6:30:41 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: shrinkermd
As long as they are not owned by any of the large commercial producers. Commercial livestock farming brings all kinds of nasty crap into the food chain. We need to return to the local farms, and remove all of the restriction that prevent them from operating profitably.

I just finished reading an excellent book by a Virginia farmer, that scared the crap out of me.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 7:50:58 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: shrinkermd

One thing the Northeast has along with their disasterous liberal high regulation governments, collapsed economies and solidly Blue political color is WATER. If the libs can find a way to help farmers instead of punishing them the Noretheast could indeed once again become a breadbasket economy.


34 posted on 10/01/2007 7:55:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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