Posted on 09/21/2007 12:39:46 PM PDT by neverdem
““Back in the Sixties,” sighs an ex-hippie lady I know, “everybody was happy. Really. Everybody.””
She doesn’t remember the deaths. I lost I think about two dozen friends by the time I was 20, sometimes 2 or 3, in 2 to 6 weeks.
Drug overdoses, suicides, shootouts, drug murders, and of course the timeless, young guys dying in the usual hard partying and adventurous ways.
Out of a small group of people, to have so much sudden death and jail sentences can take it’s toll.
Life in the sixties could be rather extraordinary, but there was real risk for those that were giving it the spice that really made it exciting.
“And that will be the Baby Boomer’s’ epitaph”
Part of the Boomer’s epitaph will be that they slowed the destruction of Western Civilization that their parents and grandparents were hell bent on.
that civilized — yes, civilized — warfare abolished slavery
General, Yes Ma’am, Sherman needs to read Unrestricted Warfare. A brief course through Sun Tzu and Von Clausewitz might also help.
You mean the grandparents who defeated Hitler and Tojo?
Yes, of course.
Look at the changes that have revealed themselves as the changes and legislation that we can’t reverse and that will be the end of us.
Most of that took place from about 1933 to 1973.
The worst of the left’s institutional power and gains were starting to be check mated and dramatically slowed by the late 70s and the situation has been better since then.
If we could make a list of say the ten top body blows that we would want to erase from our history, probably all of them were done by the parents and grandparents of the boomers
At the top of my list would be the 1965 immigration law, the laws allowing government employees and teachers to unionize, the great society, the excessive civil rights stuff, like affirmative action, the FDR years.
American community was pretty much permanently destroyed by the government of the 60s and early 70s.
The sixties started on November 22, 1963 and ended on May 4, 1970.
background on that cartoon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabulous_Furry_Freak_Brothers
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Personally I usually think of 1963 or 1964 to about 1971.
But really 1971 is a stretch, 1970 was about it.
By 1971 we were just going through the motions, I remember being picked up by some people going to Woodstock, they didn’t understand why I didn’t want to continue with them to the event, but I was tired and I knew that the sixties had already died.
But my point is the worst generation has been at the helm for at least the last twenty years. The greatest generation has been in decline population wise. These programs aren’t set in stone; yet there have been no changes. We can see the train wreck coming; the handouts cannot continue because at a certain point (sooner than most think I believe), there won’t be enough payers to exact tribute from. Yet the boomers continue blindly sailing into the abyss.
It’s one thing to cause a problem. The greatest generation is not without blame there. It is quite another to see a disaster in the making and sit idly by.
Some laws once they are passed are almost impossible to reverse.
During the sixties the legislative body blows quickly came one after the other until those generations started running into the boomer’s, then their momentum was broken.
The last 20 years have been hell but yet they were better than the 60s and 70s, we have even made gains with gun laws, etc.
Thanks for the ping. This is an interesting thread.
Yes, Dean’s comments are tiresome, they are so kneejerk.
I seen an article probably 10 years back. It said that over 3,000,000 people claim they were at Woodstock in 1969, when in reality, 150,000 to 200,000 tops were actually there over that long weekend. Wikipedia claims 500,000, but, too many people have dissed that high number. The weather was chit! My bet, over 5,000,000 people today will claim to have been there.
Thanks for the ping.
“This is something that I have noticed - those on the left seem to think that fervently wishing something was true will make it so - that you can change reality by pretending it isn’t what it is. The world may not be the way that I’d prefer it was, either, but I know that wishing it was won’t make it so.”
I work with engineers. Not surprising, liberal ones are quite rare indeed. Engineers, you see, make their living being realistic.
“”It said that over 3,000,000 people claim they were at Woodstock in 1969, when in reality, 150,000 to 200,000 tops were actually there over that long weekend. Wikipedia claims 500,000,””””
I was thinking 1970. Since I thought that the 60s were almost dead by Woodstock, that means that 1969 was the end of the 60s although they dragged on a little until about 1971.
In 1995, the census data showed 11.2 million people said they served during the Vietnam war period. But only nine million American actually served in the armed forces during the official Vietnam war period (1964-1975. And only 30 percent of those were actually in Vietnam. That’s 2.7 million troops. The census estimated that, by 1995, only 63 percent of Vietnam veterans were still alive.
Another survey, in 2000, showed the number of people claiming Vietnam era service had grown to nearly fifteen million. No doubt, it probably still grows. Most of those who did serve in Vietnam, volunteered for it.
I said the same thing 15 years ago. Although I still feel somewhat the same today, I have to erase a little too much credit given the 'Greatest Generation'. Who came back from the BIG War and gave us BIG Government programs? Roosevelt was bad enough with his 'New Deal' chit, but, Johnson's 'Great Society' programs are killing us as a Nation. Maybe the BIG War was a little too hard and they felt that any generation which follows need to be cuddled and looked after by BIG Brother. The results are us.
Glad you posted this. I was going to follow my post up with the Vietnam claims had someone questioned me. Thanks!
Excellent comments.
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