Posted on 09/21/2007 12:39:46 PM PDT by neverdem
“”Maybe the BIG War was a little too hard and they felt that any generation which follows need to be cuddled and looked after by BIG Brother””
If you look at all the theoretical foundations of the left they were the formative ideas that the intellectuals of the 30s, 40s and 50s were the true warriors of. The intellectual warriors of the right did not start showing up in great numbers until the 70s and 80s.
Conservatism is at least equal to the left presently, that was not the case before the boomer’s.
Re: your tagline, I'm curious. I went twice. The comment on the thread about most who served in Vietnam were volunteers is also true, IIRC.
Romney: “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
I notice that someone sent you a Wikipedia description of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, so I'll only touch on them briefly. They were characters from an underground comic that was popular in the late 60's and early 70's. They were counterculture dopers and the humor in them was largely about drugs.
I posted that picture as a reply to Wolfcreeks post:
“Back in the Sixties,” sighs an ex-hippie lady I know, “everybody was happy. Really. Everybody.”
"You’d never known it from the sit-ins, riots and some of that depressing anti-war music. This lady was stoned."
It was somewhat "tounge in cheek" and meant to amuse some of the "old tigers" on the forum.
The character is Freewheelin' Frank, and the other characters were Phineas and Fat Freddy.
I was 19 and 20 at the time these underground comics were printed, and they were very much to us like South Park or Beavis & Butthead are to more contemporary youth I suppose. We were attracted to the rebelliousness in them, and of course pot and LSD and that stuff were relatively new and we (kids in my age group) were egged on by the likes of Timothy Leary, rock musicians, movie stars and that ilk.
It might interest you to know that the first Fabulous Furry Freak Bros. comic I read was while serving as a sailor on a carrier during the Viet Nam war.
I hope this explains my cartoon to your satisfaction. If you're still curious about this, or what it was like at that time, please don't hesitate to Freepmail me and I'll pursue it further with you.
Have a good weekend.
The General is boomer himself. He was born Nov. 7, 1952. He graduated from West Point in 1974, so he graduated from high school in 1970. Definition of the baby boomer years vary, but all definitions seem to go up to birth years of at least 1955, the most common is 1945-1964. Roughly corresponding to those born to the WW-II generation, with the peak years being right about the time General Petraeus was born. Sometimes the boomers are divided into two Cohorts, basically '45-'54 and 55-64.
The general is also a Vietnam era veteran, although the US ground involvement was pretty much over by the time he was commissioned, as it was when I was commissioned a year earlier. Although I'm three years older, he high school at 17 and I took 5 years to graduate college, so I was commissioned only one year before him. Of course that makes me, and my wife, Boomers as well. Just not red diaper doper baby Boomers.
“The character is Freewheelin’ Frank”
It is a cool image and captures the sixties that most images don’t.
It shows the subculture of the hippie doper crowd (of the later 60s), that the mass media has a problem understanding.
Because the media and culture mavens weren’t drop outs, they were weekender’s that were getting college degrees so that they could continue running the world.
The tiny number of actual hippies were sweet and harmless, and almost every time you hear someone, past or present, described as a hippie, it is almost never accurate.
I’m not too keen on dying myself, but it’s gotta be terrifying for a person with lefty(non-existent)values!
Who the heck cares what John Dean is up to?
You ain’t gotta be a lefty to be skeered to die.
I would hate to leave my family.....other than that I will try to cowboy up.
i’ve faced it a few times already and I’m happy as a convict on furlough in a whorehouse right now so I can’t say I’d be overjoyed to get notice anytime soon that I’m dining in Hell tonight
but I sure ain’t no lefty...
no kidding
White Boomers vote more conservative today than anyone cept older Seniors
boy...what a great post....refreshing to see someone who actually reads
Bad yes, but only a side effect of the ill advised Constitutional Amendments which made the income tax constitutional, and the one that provided for direct election of Senators, and those were much earlier, in the generation of the Grandparents of the Boomers, in fact really the generation of their great grandparents, since the grandparents were mostly too young to have had much say in the matter.
Be nice Jack...there are 4 surviving original members over the years....two original members have died..Garcia and Pigpen The Great and two later added keyboard guys...Godchaux and Mydland
what sorta idiot thinks Sherman’s march or Grant’s bombing of civilians on purpose was civilized.
It may have been realthink to them but it was no more civilized than any other total war designed to break civilian will.
nor did it really work....it just helped create a resentment that even today can still be found on occasion
like at the Notre Dame/Alabama game..lol
So by 1971 you knew the 60s were over?
Hmmm...
Many of us are appalled at the pernicious effect on America wrought by The Frankfurt School through its pernicious and all too pervasive teachings. John Dean will not have the slightest direct effect on you or me because we know he is not worth caring about,but he might have a very serious indirect effect on us and certainly on our dependents. Perhaps you would like to take a look at the citation to see how John Dean has become a witting or unwitting tool Of the Frankfurt School.
“So by 1971 you knew the 60s were over?
Hmmm...”
LOL, But this decade thing is harder than it looks. Depending on your age, pick decades that you know and they never fit within the numbers.
The 80s ran from about 1982 to about 1991, the 90s ran from
1992 to 2000 or 2001,
According to those I know who were alive then, the Fun Sixties only lasted until Revolver came out — say 1966 or so. It was a time when young faces and fresh ideas were everywhere, a time of hope and optimism, but a time in which people had not lost their grasp on tradition and their respect for order. Those few good things that came out of the Sixties — the end of legal segregration, pre-psychedelic pop music, space travel — came from this era. Unfortunately, once the Counterculture came along, all that changed. The Beatles started taking drugs. Brian Wilson lost his marbles. That Girl went from cute sailor suits and a bouffant flip to being a feminist with a Joan Baez center-part. By 1967 the Fun Sixties was over, and the Age of Aquarius had begun.
America in the late 1960s was like Disney after Walt died. The magic was gone, replaced by cynicism, a smirking self-awareness, and a voracious and amoral hedonism. As a nation we gave up on our war in Adventureland, abandoned our nuclear-powered Tomorrowland, turned our backs on JFK's cosmic new Frontierland, and instead chose a chemically-fueled Fantasyland of drugs, free love, divorce, and abortion. By the time the Beatles wheezed out their last gasp, it was all over, leaving nothing but a muddy field covered in garbage and a generation of broken-hearted children who never grew up.
And as for me: I was born in 1965. My generation will have to pick up the tab for the "wonderful" 1960s.
Absolutely. I remember the "Impeach Earl Warren" signs very well and he was by no means the first. Warren may have done more long-lasting harm to the country from his perch on the Supreme Court than any other single individual.
The march through the the institutions began in the 1930s and was in full flower by the time Whittaker Chambers began spying for the USSR. The Roosevelt administration was riddled with Communists or anti-American sympathizers in positions of power, chief among them Alger Hiss, the prime architect of the UN. The New Left of the Sixties was a second-generation phenomenon.
Kill babies-Kill the elderly-kill the infirmed but don’t let me die. The new slogan of the boomers.
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