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Highway checkpoint asks drivers for blood, saliva
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9-20-2007 | Unknown

Posted on 09/21/2007 11:30:40 AM PDT by jmc813

Motorists in Colorado are expressing outrage over a weekend stunt in Gilpin County, about an hour's drive west of Denver, where highway checkpoints were set up so a private organization could ask for samples of blood and saliva.

"I don't think they're authorized to do what they're doing, and I view it as a gross violation of law-enforcement protocol," Roberto Sequeira, 51, told reporters for the Denver Post.

He said he and his wife were "detained" for about 15 minutes even after they protested they wanted to get home because of a sleepy child in their car.

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Sheriff's officials were apologizing after they helped set up and run five separate checkpoints over the weekend.

They said workers for the Institute for Research and Evaluation were overly persistent in their demands of innocent travelers.

"It was like a telemarketer that you couldn't hang up on," Undersheriff John Bayne told the newspaper.

Sgt. Bob Enney said the deputies' assistance to the organization involved stopping motorists at the sites along Colorado Highway 119 for "surveys" on any drug or alcohol use. Surveyors also requested that motorists submit to breath, blood and saliva tests.

Enney said several hundred motorists were tested, and some later complained.

Sequeira said he repeatedly asked if the questioners were law enforcement officials and said he was not interested in participating in the study, but still was not given clearance to leave.

He told the newspaper that he and his family were approached by two researchers, and even after his repeated refusals, officials offered his wife, who was driving, $100 to get the couple to take part in a breath test.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; bodilyfluids; checkpoints; dna; donutwatch; highwayrobbery; leo; nannystate; outsourcedleos; police; policepower; policestate; privacy; unreasonablesearch; wod; wodlist
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

They piss you off when they ask for money, huh?? You will probably be the first one to bitch when you have a medical emergency and they don’t have the appropriate equipment to treat you or someone you love. My area is covered by a volunteer fire department and their crews. I would give anything I could to assist in their efforts to improve services. By that’s only me. (sarcasm)


81 posted on 09/21/2007 8:54:31 PM PDT by antiunion person (First one to bitch. First one to sue.)
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To: jmc813

So much wrong here, where to begin?

I suspect that before too long you will see this happening in England, and not for the purpose of doing “studies”.


82 posted on 09/21/2007 8:56:29 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: jmc813

“highway checkpoints were set up so a private organization could ask for samples of blood and saliva.”

Your papers, servant of the state....

“Sheriff’s officials were apologizing after they helped set up and run five separate checkpoints”

They should be flogged, run out of law enforcement, and made to take a conservative American history class.

“several hundred motorists were tested, and some later complained.”

Several hundred should have told the law enforcement folks to buzz off...
We are losing our democracy. People no longer have a sense of our history and what made us great.


83 posted on 09/21/2007 8:57:18 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Minn; hiredhand; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Larry Lucido; Horatio Gates; Cap'n Crunch

ROTFLMAO ~~~ Now THAT was funny ~

Sad damn story though........that sheriffs department is in deep doo doo IMO ~

Travis ........this was in your book as well wasn’t it ?


84 posted on 09/21/2007 9:03:25 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Dern! You said that right. That dept is in DEEP doo-doo! WHAT where they thinking?! I guess they weren't!
85 posted on 09/21/2007 9:30:18 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Squantos

Ah, liberalism expanding it’s control over America. Wait until Herr Hitlery gets in there.


86 posted on 09/22/2007 7:37:37 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Yep ........... She or her seditious shadow Rudy the Rino-rat will bring total ruin to this republic if they win the election lotto (as in fat chance in hell). At least it won't be a slow death of a nation . They'll destroy what little is left of the constitutional freedoms we enjoy fast as they can.

Enemies, Foreign and Domestic,,,,,,,

Stay Safe

87 posted on 09/22/2007 8:06:31 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

This is one of those deals that if anyone wanted my help with, I would tell them where to stick it.


88 posted on 09/22/2007 10:01:58 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Horatio Gates

Albeit about 14 years since I wore the badge.......this is nothing less than kidnapping. No probable cause for a stop. Wasn’t a DUI checkpoint driven by department or State SOP. And folks were not allowed to leave when they declined participation in this private sector business experiment and repeatedly asked to leave.

Wish I could have been one of those folks unlawfully detained in such a manner. Aside from the sheriff departments role there is a civil lawsuit as well against that DNA collection company.

The LEO’s & that Company need to lose a lot of money over this little fiasco IMHO.


89 posted on 09/22/2007 10:13:45 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Yep, they threw reasonable suspicion out the window on this one. This was something that really bugged me...

"It was like a telemarketer that you couldn't hang up on," Undersheriff John Bayne told the newspaper.

Is (was) this guy a cop or some sort of invertebrate?

90 posted on 09/22/2007 12:18:54 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Squantos

Now that I think about it, I can’t help but to wonder if there was some profit motive involved here for the county coffers transferred from the Institute for Research and Evaluation


91 posted on 09/22/2007 12:28:59 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: El Sordo
I wonder if anyone freely gave a saliva sample preceeded by a loud Hhhhhwoooorrrck.

Or made a stool sample counter-offer...

92 posted on 09/22/2007 12:41:49 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Squantos
Check out the sponsors and partners of this outfit. It's a rogue's gallery of nanny staters!

http://www.pire.org/subject1.asp?id=8

93 posted on 09/22/2007 7:15:12 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; wardaddy; hiredhand

Damn if they ain’t ready to make soylent green ~

That is one scary damn outfit ain’t it !!!

And now they have garnered enough pull to get us pulled over to the side of the road for their own experiments ?

Wow ~

thanks for that link ~


94 posted on 09/22/2007 7:29:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Ken H

http://www.pire.org/detail2.asp?core=37373&cms=56

Pilot Test of the New Roadside Methodology for Impaired Driving

Principal Investigator: John Lacey
Sponsor: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
(6/23/2004 - 12/30/2005)

Proposal Abstract
PIRE will develop and pilot test (1) the data sampling, (2) sample collection, and (3) analysis protocol for a roadside survey to determine the incidence of alcohol and other drug positive drivers in the nighttime driving population. This is being done in preparation for a national roadside survey to be conducted in 2006 under a separate procurement.

It is important to develop these procedures and pilot test data collection to determine the likely compliance rate in the full scale survey. In 1996 we were able to obtain breath tests from 96% of drivers. Our experience with saliva tests with pedestrians has yielded a slightly lower compliance rate. It is likely that requests for blood specimens may yield even more refusals, but since analyses of blood samples are the gold standard, it is important to test the feasibility of obtaining such samples.


95 posted on 09/22/2007 7:37:09 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; Squantos
As a poster above said, the proper response to this crap is "No. Now get out of my way or I'll deal with you the same way I'd deal with anyone else attempting to unlawfully restrain me."

L

96 posted on 09/22/2007 7:45:18 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker

Agree.......... too many times I ask myself what life is worth if we cower to such BS.

BTW hows yer AWB emergency fund lookin ?

I picked up a few toys today , and a few dozen mags for each. More money than I wanted to spend but I can buy single shots later............LOL ~


97 posted on 09/22/2007 8:03:27 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos; tacticalogic

Looks like PIRE is one of those tax-free foundations that work hand-in-glove with government entities to set public policy. No surprise that PIRE lists the Tides Foundation, MADD, and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation as sponsors.


98 posted on 09/22/2007 8:04:16 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

That’s enough to piss off the pope IMO.......Doom on em ~

I bookmarked that site . Will keep a eye on their social experiments.

thanks again ~


99 posted on 09/22/2007 8:08:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Checkpoints are probably in our future, in the USSA.

THE CHECKPOINT

100 posted on 09/22/2007 8:18:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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