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Ron Paul's sticky revolution
The Daily Texan ^ | 9/21/07 | Andrew Vickers

Posted on 09/21/2007 8:51:19 AM PDT by traviskicks

The modern political era's reliance on focus group politics and blind party adherence makes it nice to see a fresh face or idea get batted around every once in a while. Particularly intriguing in today's already grueling campaign season is the clarion call of Ron Paul's simple libertarian constitutionalism. As anyone who has seen his supporters' rEVOLution (yes, that's LOVE backward) signs and graffiti around town can attest, Dr. Paul (an MD who makes liberal use of his title in his campaign literature) is finding quite a few listeners from all colors of the political spectrum.

His refusal to toe the Republican (and part of the "Democratic") party line that equates being "tough on terrorism" to military adventurism throughout the globe has won him quite a few converts and quite a bit more praise from some of the unlikeliest of places. In fact, the poll conducted by Fox News after the most recent Republican debate had 33 percent of respondents granting the victory to Dr. Paul. This came even after moderator Chris Mathews seemed to do everything he could to limit his participation in the debate. Though pundits were quick to credit Paul's rabid "blogospheric" following with bombarding the poll's results, the big thinking and soft talking Texas representative is making a noticeable splash in the stagnant waters of American politics.

Much of Ron Paul's popularity is due to his unwillingness to deal in political buzzwords and jargon, and his most popular positions are a refreshing appeal to America's common sense. But unfortunately, like so many things in today's attention deficient world, it is too easy to make a snap judgment of Dr. Paul based on his sound bites and YouTube clips. For all of their intellectual appeal, there are real reasons why Libertarians have uniformly been hapless also-rans in every important election (Dr. Paul was their presidential candidate in 1988, commanding a whopping 0.47 percent of the popular vote), and most of these flaws can be recognized in a perusal of Dr. Paul's campaign promises.

The dismantling of America's regulatory system and the dramatic decrease in our government's bureaucracy, Paul proposes, would be an unmitigated disaster up and down the line. The tragic collapse in July of a Minnesota bridge and its subsequent investigation proved that many areas of America require more oversight and funding, not less. The lacking services of vitally important federal agencies, like the Environmental Protection Agency or consumer protections, reflect their neglected fate as little scraps of the federal budget. And though there is no doubt that every branch of the government's immense bureaucratic structure is in need of better efficiency and reform, Dr. Paul's argument that regulations and investigations put a damper on corporate profit and freedom do not hold up to any sort of scrutiny. Were it not for the few safeguards put in place to monitor the amount of pollutants in our drinking water or mercury in our Barbie dolls, you could be sure that we would learn quickly that one cannot rely on the goodness of corporate hearts to self-police their own interests.

In a policy that few besides your Ayn Rand Institute types could love, Ron Paul would have us repeg America's currency to the price of gold, economic thinking that was born in the "balance of wealth" days of kings and conquistadors. The Gold Standard theory, one that few economists endorse, could only work if every individual had a perfect knowledge of every aspect of the world economy at any given moment. Unfortunately, not even the Olympian minds of Ben Bernanke or Alan Greenspan could possibly hope to achieve this, and thus the consumer must continue to trust that the men whose job it is to monitor the state of the economy perform to the best of their ability.

And lastly, most every Republican and Democrat knows, even if it is deep in their heart of hearts, that Ron Paul's promise to abolish the IRS on the first day of his taking office is preposterous. Though it breaks my aching liberal heart to say it, America's military superiority, and subsequently the defense of the Constitution and the liberty that we all love (and for which Dr. Paul is a true champion), can no longer be funded by import duties and excise taxes as it was in the days of Franklin and Jefferson.

Though everyone dreads the inevitable appearance of the tax man every April, it is an unfortunate essential in our national security, safety and sovereignty. If money is the "life-blood" of man's existence, as Mrs. Rand's hero of "Atlas Shrugged" grandly proclaims, then how do we dare to cut out the heart of the defender of Freedom. And if it is our "social barometer," how can we institute policy that unduly punishes, by the law of diminishing returns, the nation's neediest citizens. The freedom from hunger and fear that Franklin Delano Roosevelt once promised to the American people is just as important as the freedom to make a buck.

America is better for having Ron Paul in the thick of its political fray. He is a man of intelligence and vision in a crowd of pretty faces and speeches. The geek may not get the girl in the end, but he can teach a thing or two to the jock. Here's hoping that the thorn in the side of the America's political establishment does a lot more damage before he's through.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: horstwessellied; paulqaeda; paulspam; ronpaul
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To: counterpunch
Sorry, wrong graphic!


21 posted on 09/21/2007 9:38:39 AM PDT by drpix
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To: traviskicks

But unfortunately, like so many things in today’s attention deficient world, it is too easy to make a snap judgment of Dr. Paul based on his sound bites and YouTube clips.


So...judging him on his own words is not fair?


22 posted on 09/21/2007 9:38:55 AM PDT by Grunthor (So is Ron Paul to the mentally deranged what Aquaman is to fish or something?)
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To: traviskicks
being "tough on terrorism" to military adventurism throughout the globe has won him quite a few converts and quite a bit more praise from some of the unlikeliest of places. In fact, the poll conducted by Fox News after the most recent Republican debate had 33 percent of respondents granting the victory to Dr. Paul. This came even after moderator Chris Mathews seemed to do everything he could to limit his participation in the debate.

I got a real kick out of all that!

23 posted on 09/21/2007 9:43:01 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Petronski; ejonesie22; dighton; BlackElk; Pistolshot; lormand
Sticky ping!


24 posted on 09/21/2007 9:47:41 AM PDT by Allegra (The Surge Works While the Democrats "Betray Us.")
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To: elizabetty

>> Ron Paul has a serious problem of not understanding consequences. His grasp on reality in tenuous, at best.

You win the prize for “how to call Ron Paul a nutter without being mean and nasty”.

I must say, I am in awe. Diplomacy is not my strong suit and you just put on a clinic.


25 posted on 09/21/2007 10:04:29 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Allegra

Sticky revolution sounds kind of kinky. I’ll pass I think.


26 posted on 09/21/2007 10:09:50 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: counterpunch

well, thanks for that info and link, I responded here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1899898/posts?q=1&;page=371#371


27 posted on 09/21/2007 10:22:54 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: counterpunch

I hope not, it way too much fun.

I think TripE was calling for a self ban...


28 posted on 09/21/2007 10:36:27 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Nervous Tick

Ron Paul is a Nut Job

Damn, I must have failed class.

(Sorry, hard to resist)


29 posted on 09/21/2007 10:48:04 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Badeye

If RP is such a loon, why don’t his detractors make rational arguments against his positions? All I see on FR is one-liners, cartoons, and attempts to create guilt by association- in other words, propaganda. The whole anti-RP uproar on FR is self-contradictory. If RP has no chance at all of winning the nomination as they say, why are they so upset? Why so much effort to discredit a candidate that will, according to them, have no influence on the election?


30 posted on 09/21/2007 11:00:20 AM PDT by Soren
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To: traviskicks

Ron Paul is just using up money, energy, and efforts that we should be putting behind candidates that can win.


31 posted on 09/21/2007 11:05:04 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: ejonesie22

>> Damn, I must have failed class.

Join the club.

I’m in “Remedial Diplomacy” now, and I’m failing that too!

Especially where Elron is concerned.


32 posted on 09/21/2007 11:07:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Soren; ejonesie22
If RP is such a loon, why don’t his detractors make rational arguments against his positions? All I see on FR is one-liners, cartoons, and attempts to create guilt by association- in other words, propaganda.

The serious arguments against Elron have been made in these threads many times.

Elron's just one of those characters that is SO far out on the nuttie end of the bell curve that he invites caricature.

But hey, thanks for giving me the excuse to post yet another Elron cartoon jab!


33 posted on 09/21/2007 11:17:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Nervous Tick
The argument is simple, the Paulinati then go on a tear that is really hard to take seriously after the 200th time...
34 posted on 09/21/2007 11:25:49 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: Nervous Tick
I am not sure I would use the word nutter but I do honestly believe the man is suffering from dementia. And I mean that in a clinical sense.

His supporters are nutters.
35 posted on 09/21/2007 11:26:09 AM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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To: Soren

‘If RP is such a loon, why don’t his detractors make rational arguments against his positions? ‘

I’ve done so repeatedly here in the forum. If I ask a basic question, as I did yesterday, about who he voted for in 2000, and 2004 his ‘supporters’ claim its none of my business, its private balloting, etc etc etc. Just one example.

Ask about his claim we brought on the attack on 9/11 because of one recently concluded decade of policy, and you get back ‘thats not what he said’ even though we all heard him say it, heard him defend it against the comments by two other candidates, and have the entire exchange from the transcript here in the forum multiple times.

Apparently the defense for that one is ‘don’t believe your own eyes and ears, we are telling you what he actually said....”

Ask about his shrimp earmark, and how to file that one in line with his claims about Federal Spending and the Constitution, and you get back ‘thats not what he did’ even though AGAIN, we have the budget, we have the earmark, and we see what he did. ‘don’t believe your own eyes and ears, we are tellnig you what he actually did....’

Ask why he doesn’t mention on his own website he was the Libertarian Candidate in 1988...and we get another variation of the same ‘Paulspeak’ I’ve detailed twice in the previous paragraphs.

Ask how it is every other Conservative under the sun understood clearly the difference between Gore and Bush in 2000...we get more ‘Paulspeak’ and a reminder its none of our business who he voted for in that race....which you might recall was the closest election in US history.

Ask how it is every other Conservative under the sun understood clearly the difference between Kerry and Bush...again, more ‘Paulspeak’ and another reminder who he votes for is ‘none of our business’.

I’m not so much annoyed by his ‘positions’ as I am by his ACTIONS, and the lack of explanation. He, and his supporters, choose to play a highhanded game, exuding arrogance about being ‘true Conservatives’ and oh so pure as driven snow...yet we have the earmarks, we have a weird disconnect on the merits of Bush v Gore, or Bush v Kerry.

If he can’t answer simple questions about his own voting record and track record supporting his ‘alleged’ political party in national election cycles....why on earth should anyone think he can deal with international entites that want to kill us because of a difference of religious viewpoint?

I ask these questions you say should be asked, and now you know what I’ve gotten back so far. IN my opinion.

The fact of the matter is Ron Paul wants the GOP ‘base’ to support his nomination, but continues to act offended when that base he desires dares to ask him basic questions.

Thats just stupid politics on the national level. He’s had an opening, the best one he’ll ever realize in his life to be blunt, and his own arrogance and bizzaro world view brought it to a screeching halt three months ago.

Hope tha answers your question....now I have one for you. One I’ve asked Paul supporters a few times here in the forum.

When he runs as a third party candidate, will you vote for him?

If it makes it easier, I’ll offer up another variation of the same question;

If he does run as a third party candidate, will you vote for him?


36 posted on 09/21/2007 11:33:44 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: traviskicks

Ron Paul ping.


37 posted on 09/21/2007 11:34:42 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Soren
If RP is such a loon, why don’t his detractors make rational arguements against his positions?

Have you ever argued with a 6 year old?

38 posted on 09/21/2007 11:43:00 AM PDT by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: Soren
Why so much effort to discredit a candidate that will, according to them, have no influence on the election?

Sorry, but it ain't just about Ron Paul. It is about battling those who in a time of war undermine this country's resolve to fight that war. Ron Paul is particularly insidious because he is assuming an anti-war position as he seeks the GOP nomination, whereas most in the GOP strongly support the war effort.

Throw in Paul's shrimpocrisy, and he is toxic. It's that simple.

39 posted on 09/21/2007 11:47:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: chesty_puller

‘Have you ever argued with a 6 year old?’

Routinely when I ask who Ron Paul voted for in 2000, and 2004, for just one example.


40 posted on 09/21/2007 11:58:00 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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